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[Heliotrope]

I too worry about David Cook but I have to kind of look at things in perspective. Kelly was the 1st A.I. and you just can't fight that. By the time Daughtry's season rolled around everyone was watching A.I. on TV. People were talking about it all the time. I didn't watch A.I. or any of those type of reality shows but I heard people talking about it all the time. After Daughtry lost at the #4 spot people were disgusted & didn't watch A.I. as much as before. So Daughtry propelled to success just because people wanted to show that he should have won.

That was part of the reason for Daughtry's success, but he has continued to gain new fans who didn't watch the show and never knew he only came in 4th and could care less. If he hadn't had the opportunity to build his fanbase among non-Idol fans, he would not be selling out arenas the way he is. Daughtry, as the show's first true rocker who finished in the Top 5, has been treated right by 19 and by RCA, unlike Cook, who I think is seen as Daughtry Part 2 by them, which is a damn shame.

I like Daughtry but I really don't think he's as good a David Cook but Daughtry is on the radio all the time. I have Daughtry's 1st album but I listened to it about 2 times & that was it. Not so with DCTR. It's like radio has decided that if they need to pick just one A.I. rocker, then it's Daughtry. Now Daughtry didn't get to release another album for 3 years. David will get one in 1-1/2 years. Personality wise, Daughtry doesn't have much, he's nice but to me kind of boring.

I agree. I loved Daughtry on the show, but was disappointed with his first album. The only song from it I really liked was "Home." All the other songs all sounded exactly the same to me. Nothing against Daughtry, because he is talented, but IMHO David is much more so, and I prefer his voice to Daughtry's. I think his music is much more original and versatile, and his vocals convey so much more emotion. RCA is really not taking advantage of what Cook has to offer, and chose the blandest, most boring song from DCTR as the one released to radio stations (CBTM). Light On was a good choice, but was not written by David. Why they didn't release Avalanche or Lie instead of CBTM is totally beyond me as both those songs have hit written all over them.

RCA doesn't give a rats *ss about singles. They push album sales. If you want singles, then David should have gone with Jive. Seriously, I thought Jordin Sparks was done for with how slow her album sales were. It took her forever to reach Platinum & that's when the economy was good still. Now I hate her Battlefield single but it's getting huge radio play. I seriously think that I must be totally out of it because some of these songs out there are huge hits & I think they are crab. Daughtry & Cook don't sound anything alike so I fume when people say Cook is a Daughtry wannabee. No way no how.

I agree. Cook is definitely not a Daughtry wannabe, but 19 and RCA are treating him as if he is. I don't much care for Jordin Sparks, but she keeps getting single after single released, and all have done well. I never would have believed that could happen when she was on the show. But AI has always been more about r&b/pop than about rock. Seems they only have room for one rocker, and it's Daughtry. If Cook had been first, he might have become their token rocker instead, and Daughtry would be seen as their Cook wannabe. Adam Lambert is a rocker, but a completely different style of rock, so he's being promoted up the wazoo.

I am going to keep the faith because I've always felt that David Cook will be big. You have to love the guy, you can't help it. He's a man's man. (Yes, Daughtry is also a man's man.) In that I mean that it's cool for guys to like his music. Sports loves him, he's funny & he's the nicest guy you'll ever meet. He doesn't come off as aloof or arrogant & he's down to earth & people see that & they like it. He's not contraversial & he's very talented.

I agree with all this. Cook will do just fine, but it may be slow going for awhile. He needs to find another label though, who will appreciate what he has to offer.

Yes, it's pitiful with how Kris Allen is treated. All I ever see is Adam Lambert but I really feel that RCA is overestimating how popular Adam Lambert is or will be. He's talented, I'm not going to take that from him, but he just might not go over as expected. One can agree that no matter how talented Adam is he isn't what I consider a "man's man" & I think his album cover cements that more than anything. He's contraversial as far as the public is. He's theatre as far as I can see. I love that Adam is true to himself & I am surprised with his album's cover. I would have thought RCA would have preferred downplaying his "gayness." I know this thread isn't about Adam but more about RCA's lack of promotion, etc.

I don't think Adam has staying power. He's very talented, but I'm not sure how well his act will translate to record sales. I could be wrong, but I think much of his popularity has to do with his stage act and not so much his vocals. I think there will be an initial flurry of high sales of his album, but after awhile people will get burned out on him and stop buying. He will do very well in his tours though, because of his impressive stage act. But I actually think Danny will prove to have more staying power over the long haul and while his album may not sell as fast as Adam's at first, I think it will continue to sell over time--and RCA seems very invested in promoting both these guys. Danny has the advantage of being the only Top 3 finisher who is doing country, and I think it will be more country crossover/pop than pure country, and get airplay and both AC and country stations, like Taylor Swift, RF, or Keith Urban. I actually think in the long run he is going to be the most successful season 8 contestant, and certainly the most successful third place finisher ever. I think Kris can do well if he's allowed to do what he does best. He has a John Mayer like vibe, but 19 seems to be trying to push him into a style of music that is not really his own. But I don't think he will do as well as Adam or Danny. But enough about the season 8 finalists because this is supposed to be about David.

I think there might be a lull in David's career with RCA but I still feel David will be big. I don't want another single off the record I am looking forward to a new record & I want to hear more of David's true talent & not what RCA thought should be on the album. RCA needs to trust David & his talent.

They need to do that, but they probably won't. David really needs to find another label who will promote him properly and allow him more artistic license.

[Heliotrope]

19 and RCA don't realize how much more money David can make for them, and for such an old label, they ought to know better. David could be a huge star, but unfortunately outside the Idol community not many people know who he is, other than the guy who sang TOML, Light On and CBTM, none of which really showcase David's talent, especially not CBTM.

I doubt anyone working for RCA will see this, or care, but here is what should happen to get David's career back on track, because the way things are looking right now, his career is stagnating fast. Waiting until his sophomore album to release another single is not smart, for such a new artist. Here are my suggestions. It's not too late!

1. Release a new single from DCTR ASAP! Avalanche or Lie would be the best choices, as they have crossover appeal and could be played on rock, AC and Hot AC radio stations. I could guarantee Avalanche would be a huge hit. It has all the right elements to be a hit. It's romantic, sexy (but not too sexy), well written, it has a pretty melody, a nice build, and easy to remember chorus. Lie could even have crossover potential into the country market, as it definitely has a country sound to it and tells a story. So what that he doesn't have a twang? Many country artists today don't have a twang. I could see Lie being a hit in many different genres.

2. David seriously needs a stylist, or one who knows what they are doing. David is great looking, but his hair isn't doing it for him at all. What's up with the return of the combover? He needs plugs, or extensions, or at least wear a hat, because David certainly has a face for hats. I know David isn't really big into appearance, and that's cool, but unfortunately in this business, looks do matter.

3. Don't try to book him into large venues or arenas yet. He's not ready. Right now his fanbase consists mainly of people who were his fans on Idol or who became his fans after DCTR was released. Unlike Daughtry, who can sell out arenas, Cook cannot do this yet. Unfortunately I can almost guarantee his label would lose money if they try to book him into large venues now. They need to promote him more first. He needs the opportunity to grow his fanbase, through the release of a song such as Avalanche or Lie that can become HUGE hits, and more public appearances other than at fairgrounds and localized events.

4. More national appearances, publicity, photo shoots, etc. David is great looking, and is very photogenic. He needs to be featured in national magazines, photoshoots, etc. I could even see him modeling or appearning on the cover of magazines like GQ or Details (but no dirty pictures like AL, please). The only drawback to his appearance is his hair, and that can be fixed fairly easily. It looked great last summer, why not now? This would help get David out there in the public eye, where people would know who he is who didn't watch Idol.

5. If none of this works, David needs to ditch 19/RCA and find another label. Waiting a whole year until his next single is the dumbest thing they can do. People have short memories, and David hasn't been in the business long enough for people to remember who he is next year, without something in between to keep the momentum going.



I thought of this too. David's fanbase could also be increased by having him headlining some bigger rock acts, such as Daughtry or Bon Jovi. Fans of those acts tend to like David's style of rock too, and this would be a great way to get his name out there, before a new album is dropped. David couldn't fill a stadium on his own--yet--but if he headlined someone else he would get the opportunity to play to big venues and gain a multitude of new fans who never heard of him before. Since Adam Lambert might be already capable of filling an arena, that's another possibility. Of course their rock styles are very different. He could tour with someone like Kelly Clarkson too, since she's still popular and appeals to both rock and pop fans.

I think it's great he's appearing with Carrie Underwood in her Christmas special. I could also see him headlining for Carrie, or appearing with her in her concerts. I suspect however, that Carrie may wind up with Danny Gokey headlining for her rather than David, if 19 is planning to double up idols to promote them, since he's also country now and shares the same producer as Carrie. Hopefully David will have more appearances like the Carrie Underwood special. I hope he wouldn't be averse to headlining for a bigger rock act. I don't think he's too proud to do something like that, if it would help him get more fans.

[reinharv]

It's sad that RCA isn't doing what they should with David. I know that with David's talent that he will continue to go uphill with his career though.

RCA is looking at Adam Lambert as their next big star. The write up they gave him made Adam seem like he'll be as big as Elvis & Michael Jackson. Adam's A Time For Miracles certainly isn't shooting up the charts. It's not like it debuted in the top 10. I am just silently laughing. I mean does everybody remember how when David's album dropped it went to #1 on iTunes in POP, in all albums & in Rock. I doubt this will happen to Adam Lambert. I didn't listen to his next single "For Your Entertainment" but I sure heard a lot of negative comments.

Do you all remember some of the negative reviews Cook got saying he is a Daughtry or Nickleback wannabee, which is so off in far left field as Cook doesn't sound anything like either one of them, nor is his style anything close, that Adam is being compared to Lady Gaga, Britney Spears & Madonna (all females LOL) as so that's okay (we need another GAGA, SPEARS, MADONNA. Then there is the he's another Elvis or Michael Jackson. Right, we need another Elvis except Elvis didn't wear makeup & look like a girl or sound like a girl & if you just try to be like Michael Jackson, you'll get ripped apart. In the end you cannot criticize Adam Lambert. He's untouchable. Well I think RCA is going to be surprised that just maybe after Adam's fans buy his album, that just might be about it.

In any case, Cook is going to be on Regis & Kelly. I saw it posted so he is getting some PR. Right now his tour has more than 20 more shows & November is pretty well booked up. December only 4 dates.

[Heliotrope]

RCA is looking at Adam Lambert as their next big star. The write up they gave him made Adam seem like he'll be as big as Elvis & Michael Jackson. Adam's A Time For Miracles certainly isn't shooting up the charts. It's not like it debuted in the top 10. I am just silently laughing. I mean does everybody remember how when David's album dropped it went to #1 on iTunes in POP, in all albums & in Rock. I doubt this will happen to Adam Lambert. I didn't listen to his next single "For Your Entertainment" but I sure heard a lot of negative comments.

Do you all remember some of the negative reviews Cook got saying he is a Daughtry or Nickleback wannabee, which is so off in far left field as Cook doesn't sound anything like either one of them, nor is his style anything close, that Adam is being compared to Lady Gaga, Britney Spears & Madonna (all females LOL) as so that's okay (we need another GAGA, SPEARS, MADONNA. Then there is the he's another Elvis or Michael Jackson. Right, we need another Elvis except Elvis didn't wear makeup & look like a girl or sound like a girl & if you just try to be like Michael Jackson, you'll get ripped apart. In the end you cannot criticize Adam Lambert. He's untouchable. Well I think RCA is going to be surprised that just maybe after Adam's fans buy his album, that just might be about it.

In any case, Cook is going to be on Regis & Kelly. I saw it posted so he is getting some PR. Right now his tour has more than 20 more shows & November is pretty well booked up. December only 4 dates.

I like Adam, but I think he is going to be a disappointment over the long haul. I think his appeal has more to do with his act than his voice. Sure, he's talented, but I can't see his act translating well to radio, rock or otherwise. His sound just is not very commercial. I could be wrong, but I think after an initial flurry of album sales/downloads, sales will level off and a year from now he won't be selling that much. He's a flash in the pan. I doubt he will be the next Elvis or Michael Jackson. He's this year's Big Thing, but next year there will probably be someone else, and 19 will forget all about him, just as they have with so many other idols past their season.

[LuvinDavid1]

I just bought Daughtry's new CD b/c I saw him on Idol Gives Back and thought his sound was different and I thought he was good. I think he and David sound nothing alike. I have only played Daughtry's album twice all the way through. I play DCTR nonstop. I will tell you, though, it wasn't until I got Daughtry's CD that I saw that he was still with 19/RCA. I thought, with his success, that he had moved on to a different "non-Idol" label. You also have to remember, Daughtry headlined for Bon Jovi and that's where he picked up alot of fans who never watched Idol before or even knew he was on Idol. I would love to see David headline for BonJovi. It would be a huge careeer move for him. I am in NY and BonJovi will be playing 3 shows in May at the new Giants stadium/ most of my friends are going to all three shows. Jovi fans are real die hards like we are with David. Can you imagine the exposure David would have if those Jovi fans got to see David live 3 shows (or more) in a row?? The more people that hear David and see him live, the more people love him and will want to buy his music.

[iluvcookies81]

I think David should switch to Carrie's label, cause she's getting promoted like crazy, unless it's a nashville label and they don't do rock, I'm not sure. I love LO, but the main reason I listened to it so much is because it was the first new thing and all we had, after hearing the rest of the songs, I really don't care for it. The first time I heard CBTM I thought something was funny and I didn't want to hate it because it was David and I hadn't read the liner notes yet, but then I find out he didn't write, no wonder I didn't like it, it just doesn't sound like David a little too much pop IMO. I thought I was gonna die when it was the new single. I've always thought something fishy was up with RCA by both singles being written by someone else and then BBS just vanished (technically someone else wrote BBS, but David has a writing credit because he changed it up quite a bit and added the guitar solo thing, I can't remember what all now). I think they should have put Permanent out on the radio as well as on iTunes, lots of singers have put out sad depressing songs, Tears in Heaven for example (which I would love to hear David cover), it was a huge hit, all ovfer the radio, of course Eric Clapton was already big, but that's kinda beside the point IMO. I just don't see how David is gonna sell out bigger venues with no radio play it's ridiculous. David is an incredible writer, his songs are beautiful, RCA is seriously f***d up not putting out more singles. Another thing they could do is put out a live concert DVD. I don't understand their strategy. I know ppl like AL, but I can't stand him, I can't even look at him, he looks creepy and I don't think he can sing, his voice is too high and he screams too much and why they say he's a rocker I don't know, cause he did not rock out songs like David did to me, he belongs in musicals or something. It's just pitiful that David doesn't have a new single and is getting no radio play. Sorry for my rant, but I feel like picketting RCA's office headquarters and throwing eggs at their windows, lol. Maybe they will release Lie, put it on iTunes at least, for crying out loud. Ok, I'm done now.

[willow]

Just a clarification for some of you who keep saying that David should "headline" for a group like Bon Jovi or Daughtry -- what you really mean is "open" for them. In this case the "headliners," i.e. the main band performing, are Bon Jovi or Daughtry. If David were to play with them he would be the opening act, i.e. play first. Right now David Cook (and the Anthemic) IS a headlining act, with openers having been Ryan Star, GRO, Needtobreathe, Tonic, and Crash Kings.

[reinharv]

That was part of the reason for Daughtry's success, but he has continued to gain new fans who didn't watch the show and never knew he only came in 4th and could care less. If he hadn't had the opportunity to build his fanbase among non-Idol fans, he would not be selling out arenas the way he is. Daughtry, as the show's first true rocker who finished in the Top 5, has been treated right by 19 and by RCA, unlike Cook, who I think is seen as Daughtry Part 2 by them, which is a damn shame.



I agree. I loved Daughtry on the show, but was disappointed with his first album. The only song from it I really liked was "Home." All the other songs all sounded exactly the same to me. Nothing against Daughtry, because he is talented, but IMHO David is much more so, and I prefer his voice to Daughtry's. I think his music is much more original and versatile, and his vocals convey so much more emotion. RCA is really not taking advantage of what Cook has to offer, and chose the blandest, most boring song from DCTR as the one released to radio stations (CBTM). Light On was a good choice, but was not written by David. Why they didn't release Avalanche or Lie instead of CBTM is totally beyond me as both those songs have hit written all over them.



I agree. Cook is definitely not a Daughtry wannabe, but 19 and RCA are treating him as if he is. I don't much care for Jordin Sparks, but she keeps getting single after single released, and all have done well. I never would have believed that could happen when she was on the show. But AI has always been more about r&b/pop than about rock. Seems they only have room for one rocker, and it's Daughtry. If Cook had been first, he might have become their token rocker instead, and Daughtry would be seen as their Cook wannabe. Adam Lambert is a rocker, but a completely different style of rock, so he's being promoted up the wazoo.



I agree with all this. Cook will do just fine, but it may be slow going for awhile. He needs to find another label though, who will appreciate what he has to offer.



I don't think Adam has staying power. He's very talented, but I'm not sure how well his act will translate to record sales. I could be wrong, but I think much of his popularity has to do with his stage act and not so much his vocals. I think there will be an initial flurry of high sales of his album, but after awhile people will get burned out on him and stop buying. He will do very well in his tours though, because of his impressive stage act. But I actually think Danny will prove to have more staying power over the long haul and while his album may not sell as fast as Adam's at first, I think it will continue to sell over time--and RCA seems very invested in promoting both these guys. Danny has the advantage of being the only Top 3 finisher who is doing country, and I think it will be more country crossover/pop than pure country, and get airplay and both AC and country stations, like Taylor Swift, RF, or Keith Urban. I actually think in the long run he is going to be the most successful season 8 contestant, and certainly the most successful third place finisher ever. I think Kris can do well if he's allowed to do what he does best. He has a John Mayer like vibe, but 19 seems to be trying to push him into a style of music that is not really his own. But I don't think he will do as well as Adam or Danny. But enough about the season 8 finalists because this is supposed to be about David.



They need to do that, but they probably won't. David really needs to find another label who will promote him properly and allow him more artistic license.

I doubt very much that David will find another label unless he's forced or in that the label drops him, which right now is unlikely. RCA as far as labels go are pretty darn good. I mean even I have heard of them. I don't know anything about labels. I think though that if Cook really puts it out on his next album & that he has some fantastic songs on it, they might just let him have more artistic license. One reason I feel David wouldn't purposely drop the label is simply because he's incredibly loyal. The label is attached to 19M to 19E & to A.I. and as long as he's managed by Simon Fuller, we can expect that Cook might get more appearances on A.I. during the next season. I would imagine that they are timing it so that Cook will appear on one of the final last shows & do a single off his next album, right before the album drops. That will be a big boost right there with all the viewers. I just hope to God that Cook gets to choose his next single off the next album.

All in all, I think Cook is doing quite well in retrospect. He's still up there on A.I. radio play & before too long, he'll have another album with more songs to play. As far as singles go, I don't think that radio is restricted to play just the released singles, I think they can play anything off his album. RCA did not promote Bar-Ba-Sol & I have a feeling that was because they don't want to tag Cook as a "rocker" because that is a really hard genre to crack & there aren't too many stations that do pure rock. My conspiracy theory is that RCA wanted to proove something to Cook & when Bar-Ba-Sol didn't get radio play - just based on the fact that Cook did it, means that rock radio is very selective & so you'll probably tank in that genre. I am happy for him to be on HAC & AC.

[womannextdoor]

I doubt very much that David will find another label unless he's forced or in that the label drops him, which right now is unlikely. RCA as far as labels go are pretty darn good. I mean even I have heard of them. I don't know anything about labels. I think though that if Cook really puts it out on his next album & that he has some fantastic songs on it, they might just let him have more artistic license. One reason I feel David wouldn't purposely drop the label is simply because he's incredibly loyal. The label is attached to 19M to 19E & to A.I. and as long as he's managed by Simon Fuller, we can expect that Cook might get more appearances on A.I. during the next season. I would imagine that they are timing it so that Cook will appear on one of the final last shows & do a single off his next album, right before the album drops. That will be a big boost right there with all the viewers. I just hope to God that Cook gets to choose his next single off the next album.

All in all, I think Cook is doing quite well in retrospect. He's still up there on A.I. radio play & before too long, he'll have another album with more songs to play. As far as singles go, I don't think that radio is restricted to play just the released singles, I think they can play anything off his album. RCA did not promote Bar-Ba-Sol & I have a feeling that was because they don't want to tag Cook as a "rocker" because that is a really hard genre to crack & there aren't too many stations that do pure rock. My conspiracy theory is that RCA wanted to proove something to Cook & when Bar-Ba-Sol didn't get radio play - just based on the fact that Cook did it, means that rock radio is very selective & so you'll probably tank in that genre. I am happy for him to be on HAC & AC.

I think HAC and AC is the way to go. I think they are more popular then the rock stations. At least in my neck of the woods.

I also want to add or ask a question. I'm trying to remember after Kelly Clarkson won AI, How many singles did she have released on her 1st album? 2 or 3? Im not sure but it seems she really took off when her 2nd album came out. Lots of successful singles from that. Maybe David will be going her route and his 2nd album will have more successful singles and do better overall. I feel that David is going to build slowly to greatness. I have the patience to see him through. The last thing I want is him to be a flash in the pan and than be gone as quickly.

[LuvinDavid1]

I think HAC and AC is the way to go. I think they are more popular then the rock stations. At least in my neck of the woods.

I also want to add or ask a question. I'm trying to remember after Kelly Clarkson won AI, How many singles did she have released on her 1st album? 2 or 3? Im not sure but it seems she really took off when her 2nd album came out. Lots of successful singles from that. Maybe David will be going her route and his 2nd album will have more successful singles and do better overall. I feel that David is going to build slowly to greatness. I have the patience to see him through. The last thing I want is him to be a flash in the pan and than be gone as quickly.

I don't rember about Kelly either but I think she is getting more and more popular every day. Jordin Sparks is just getting "really" popular b/c she is touring with The Jonas Brothers. My sister took her kids to see Jonas and she called me and told me how good Jordin Sparks was, and she had never listened to her before. I think the same thing may happen with David. He is so talented and so special.

[reinharv]

I think HAC and AC is the way to go. I think they are more popular then the rock stations. At least in my neck of the woods.

I also want to add or ask a question. I'm trying to remember after Kelly Clarkson won AI, How many singles did she have released on her 1st album? 2 or 3? Im not sure but it seems she really took off when her 2nd album came out. Lots of successful singles from that. Maybe David will be going her route and his 2nd album will have more successful singles and do better overall. I feel that David is going to build slowly to greatness. I have the patience to see him through. The last thing I want is him to be a flash in the pan and than be gone as quickly.

Well HAC & AC is all there is from my neck of the woods - rock is thrown in there once a while but a lot of things are "rock" sounding just not hardcore rock. Rock is best live because it's about the show. I really don't believe that David will be a flash in the pan. His voice is too good. The problem right now is that I just don't hear him much on the radio. Yesterday, I got in the car to drive home & CBTM was on, so I thought I had my CD on, which I normally do, then I heard the announcer & I almost flipped. I was so excited. However, these are rare occassions to be sure.

David is going to be on Regis & Kelly again, & he'll be on Carrie's Christmas Special & he's doing that show Extreme Makeover - Home Edition so they are booking him. He does need to get with someone else on tour - a really big act to get himself known outside the Idol fans. I would have loved to see him at the AMA performing or something like that.

David looked pretty good "hair-wise" the time I saw him in Charlottesville, but I agree with you - he needs to get away from that combover look. It's not like he's bald. Heck Daughtry is as bald as they get but comb-overs just don't do it for most people. David also looked mighty fine - dress wise too but sometimes, he's too casual. Let's face it - there's nothing like a well dressed man. LOL

I don't know who they can pair him with. Right now he's doing fine with small venues but that is where Daughtry started too - the same type of venues & in fact he still does that from time to time but he does get bigger venues now & he sells out or close to it. I like Daughtry but I only listened to his 1st album twice & never again & I didn't buy his 2nd album. It's kind of like once you hear him, you've heard him. Nothing exciting & new. I still like "Home" but that's about it.

Though folks would pitch a fit, I think he would do really well doing some concerts with Carrie - that would be fantastic. She packs them in too & she's an Idol, and they get along & they both have great voices & as long as it's not too country, it would be fine. After all, it's not just country but country sure sells and country isn't necessarily twangy aka Keith Urban.

All this talk about David getting forgotten is really depressing me but then I look at Archie. He's getting practically no radio play & his sales dropped off pretty quickly. He just can't compete with the Mileys, the Jonas Brothers & now Jordin Sparks so talk about being forgotten when everyone was predicting Archie would be more successful in the long run which we see is not the case, nor do I see him picking up speed. The kid should finish High School if you ask me & go on to college & do music on the side.

Well we do know one thing for sure. RCA will not be releasing another single off of DCTR so it's kind of mute to torture ourselves about it. Just remember that for a new artist a platinum album & two platinum singles isn't bad in this market so it's not all grim. What would be really good if he won a Grammy nomination & even better - actually win one of the categories (preferably new breakout solo male artist) but some how I don't see it because Daughtry never won anything like that when he first started.

[Heliotrope]

I do think Cook will do well, but it will be a slower process than we all hoped. What irks me more than the failure of RCA to release another single, is the fact that CBTM was chosen as the third single to release rather than a catchier song like Avalanche, Lie or even Declaration. I love David to death, and have always been a huge fan, but sorry, I never liked CBTM and I still don't. To me, the song goes nowhere. It sounds like a Daughtry single to me. (The only song I liked by Daughtry was "Home.") I still don't understand how waiting over a year until the next album is released is a good marketing strategy. Maybe it isn't. David may do well on his tours with his true blue fans, but he sure isn't going to increase his fanbase with nothing of his charting on the radio. Hopefully, he will follow in Clarkson's footsteps and his second album will be a smash and spawn a number of hits.

The best thing that could happen to David at this point (besides releasing another single, which probably won't happen) is to have him open for Bon Jovi or Daughtry. I'm sure David would be agreeable to that.

[willow]

Well if anyone was following the Twitter drama yesterday after David and Neal performed an acoustic set at the studios of KMXP (Mix 96.9) in Phoenix, AZ, I think our fears of there being no new single are pretty much confirmed. First off for some unknown reason someone from @Mix969 Tweeted after David's performance that "David Cook is a waste of time," which, of course, brought out the wrath of the fandom. Mix 96.9 deleted the tweet and then, maybe in an effort to appease us, they tweeted that they were surprised that there wasn't another single set to be released by RCA since David did such a great job at their acoustic show. Then they said they were going to ask RCA about it. But a while later, @Mix969 came back with what we've suspected: late night buzz is lukewarm reaction to a new David Cook single being released by RCA this quarter. will have more tomorrow. Then they added this tweet this morning: Great concert with David Cook last night. Still no word on a new single. :-(

Then today I saw where Daughtry will be opening for Nickelback for two shows in the U.K. in January. It would be really great if RCA/19 could somehow work David Cook and the Anthemic into that equation as the opening opening act. And Bon Jovi is going on tour in the spring, and hooking up with the Bon Jovi tour last time did wonders for Daughtry.

[Heliotrope]

Well if anyone was following the Twitter drama yesterday after David and Neal performed an acoustic set at the studios of KMXP (Mix 96.9) in Phoenix, AZ, I think our fears of there being no new single are pretty much confirmed. First off for some unknown reason someone from @Mix969 Tweeted after David's performance that "David Cook is a waste of time," which, of course, brought out the wrath of the fandom. Mix 96.9 deleted the tweet and then, maybe in an effort to appease us, they tweeted that they were surprised that there wasn't another single set to be released by RCA since David did such a great job at their acoustic show. Then they said they were going to ask RCA about it. But a while later, @Mix969 came back with what we've suspected: late night buzz is lukewarm reaction to a new David Cook single being released by RCA this quarter. will have more tomorrow. Then they added this tweet this morning: Great concert with David Cook last night. Still no word on a new single. :-(

Then today I saw where Daughtry will be opening for Nickelback for two shows in the U.K. in January. It would be really great if RCA/19 could somehow work David Cook and the Anthemic into that equation as the opening opening act. And Bon Jovi is going on tour in the spring, and hooking up with the Bon Jovi tour last time did wonders for Daughtry.

I have this unpleasant sinking feeling.
Hopefully, this is temporary, and RCA is just waiting to see how Adam's album will sell (all their attention is focused on him right now). If it doesn't sell as well as they expected, perhaps they will start focusing more on David again. Last year at this time he was getting a ton of promotion.

On the plus side, he's going to be on Carrie Underwood's Christmas special and if it goes over well, perhaps he will be given more gigs like that. Also, the sports world seems to love David as much as David loves sports. He's always featured on ESPN.

[whenyoufindyou]

RCA has been screwing over their artists for a long time.

I'm new, so hello everyone!

David and Kelly Clarkson both need to get out of RCA as fast as they can ... Their careers are pretty similar. RCA screws over DC and KC on every occasion they can, it's terrible. (ex: submitting KC's My December album for best rock album at last year's Grammys on purpose knowing she wouldn't get the votes to be nominated, to "teach her a lesson" for trying to write with her band). If an artist wants to do what they feel is right, RCA has been known to go out of their way to ruin promotions for them. They've also been caught telling Kelly that she "can't write songs" because she was 25 and a good singer .... I can just imagine what they tell David behind the scenes.

RCA will kill future singles for artist if they try to do things their way instead of the most profitable way ... I think they may be upset over the Anthemic stuff, who knows. I am not surprised if they aren't going to release any more singles; Lie would do wonderfully on the radio, but they hold grudges against artists and will stop promoting or putting money into them if they do something they don't like. It's terrible. I used Clarkson in this post as an example as another Idol winner getting screwed over with the behind-the-scenes politics we don't really hear about.

No idea why they favour Daughtry, though. Maybe they listen more? Who knows.

[womannextdoor]

RCA has been screwing over their artists for a long time.

I'm new, so hello everyone!

David and Kelly Clarkson both need to get out of RCA as fast as they can ... Their careers are pretty similar. RCA screws over DC and KC on every occasion they can, it's terrible. (ex: submitting KC's My December album for best rock album at last year's Grammys on purpose knowing she wouldn't get the votes to be nominated, to "teach her a lesson" for trying to write with her band). If an artist wants to do what they feel is right, RCA has been known to go out of their way to ruin promotions for them. They've also been caught telling Kelly that she "can't write songs" because she was 25 and a good singer .... I can just imagine what they tell David behind the scenes.

RCA will kill future singles for artist if they try to do things their way instead of the most profitable way ... I think they may be upset over the Anthemic stuff, who knows. I am not surprised if they aren't going to release any more singles; Lie would do wonderfully on the radio, but they hold grudges against artists and will stop promoting or putting money into them if they do something they don't like. It's terrible. I used Clarkson in this post as an example as another Idol winner getting screwed over with the behind-the-scenes politics we don't really hear about.

No idea why they favour Daughtry, though. Maybe they listen more? Who knows.

Thats disturbing!

[whenyoufindyou]

Thats disturbing!

But unfortunately true. I have a ton of stuff saved away somewhere on this laptop with what they've done to their artists. But I don't want to hijack the thread, so another day!

[iluvcookies81]

I think Kelly had her coronation song out then 3 more singles (I looked at the track list and I remembered the ones that were released).Rca did good by her for the first 2, but then pitched a hissy about My December, and she got into with Clive Davis and she quit and they didn't promote it good either cause they didn't like it, if she wants to write her own songs, let her. I thought she was going on Reba McEntire's label, but then this one came out and it was RCA again, which shocked me.

THinking about RCA not liking My Decmber cause she wrote it and the songs were not pop, that makes me wonder if that's why David's songs aren't being released. I'm suprised they let him have that much control. His next album better not have anything on there that he didn't write.

THe picking on his hair is p*****g me the heck off! It doesn't matter about the clothes he wears or how his hair looks, it's about his voice and his amazing talent. But then I forget "sex sells" in LA, which is a bunch of crap.

I'll get off my soapbox now, I think I'm done.

[Heliotrope]

RCA has been screwing over their artists for a long time.

I'm new, so hello everyone!

David and Kelly Clarkson both need to get out of RCA as fast as they can ... Their careers are pretty similar. RCA screws over DC and KC on every occasion they can, it's terrible. (ex: submitting KC's My December album for best rock album at last year's Grammys on purpose knowing she wouldn't get the votes to be nominated, to "teach her a lesson" for trying to write with her band). If an artist wants to do what they feel is right, RCA has been known to go out of their way to ruin promotions for them. They've also been caught telling Kelly that she "can't write songs" because she was 25 and a good singer .... I can just imagine what they tell David behind the scenes.

RCA and 19 have a long history of this kind of behavior toward the idols. When they see that Adam's FYE and TFM aren't doing as well as they had hoped (but the verdict's not out yet on that, since the album isn't even officially released) they will probably start treating him the same way. Just watch. Both DC and KC have wanted to stretch their wings and rock out more than 19 is willing to let them do. IMHO David hasn't been looking at all happy lately, and I think he's getting the KC treatment. Fortunately, for Kelly, she had a chance to become pretty big before she started being treated like that. David hasn't had that chance, and won't if they refuse to release another single/not book him to open for bigger acts. He's not getting anywhere with the endless local and fairground circuit, and I think he knows this. I think RCA is probably punishing David for what they probably see as some of the "subversive" things he does, such as donning a grunge rocker style they don't approve of, and daring to name his band the "Anthemic."

Danny is also signed now by RCA, but since it's the Nashville division and he's being produced by Mark Bright, Carrie Underwood's producer (who hasn't suffered the same fate as DC and KC), and he's not a rocker, he may have the good fortune to escape this disrespectful treatment. He also wasn't the winner, which I think is benefiting him, since had he won he would have been under Adam's shadow and had to rush out an album, like poor Kris had to do. Winning sometimes isn't all it's cracked up to be. He's also malleable and a newbie in music, so he's not likely to argue with his label over what they want him to do. (I have a feeling both DC and KC may have "got into it" with RCA and 19). So I think Gokey may actually become the "Daughtry of season 8." There's already signs this is happening and I think his new song is going to be a hit.

RCA will kill future singles for artist if they try to do things their way instead of the most profitable way ... I think they may be upset over the Anthemic stuff, who knows. I am not surprised if they aren't going to release any more singles; Lie would do wonderfully on the radio, but they hold grudges against artists and will stop promoting or putting money into them if they do something they don't like. It's terrible. I used Clarkson in this post as an example as another Idol winner getting screwed over with the behind-the-scenes politics we don't really hear about.

No idea why they favour Daughtry, though. Maybe they listen more? Who knows.

I think there's a few reasons they favor Daughtry. First, he didn't win, so he probably was allowed to make more of the type of album he wanted in the first place or choose what singles he wanted released (I don't know this, just guessing); second, until Daughtry, there was no other rocker who had been as popular (unless you count Bo Bice, whose sound was more Southern rock, if anything) so he had the advantage of not having to compete with a predecessor of the same style; third, I think Daughtry may have allowed 19 and RCA to push him around more and not do "subversive" things (not that I think David is subversive, but he's got a lot of artistic integrity and I think RCA/19 may see that as detrimental to their agenda).

I think David would be much happier if he goes with another label that will allow him more artistic leeway, and do what HE tells them to do, instead of the other way around.

[iluvcookies81]

The way things have been going, I kindsa wish Archie had won and then David might have gotten an offer that would have catered more to the way he wanted the album to be and he might have been promoted more. Also he wouldn't have the "American Idol" title and it wouldn't have trouble getting radio stations to take him seriously. I do like the fact that he won, but if he hadn't he still would have made it big, like Daughtry.