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[zoo]

I think David would be much happier if he goes with another label that will allow him more artistic leeway, and do what HE tells them to do, instead of the other way around.

I happen to think that he has been given quite a bit of license in the making of his CD and the formation of his band. I also think that it could very well backfire if he chose to leave a major label like that. He could possibly be labeled as difficult. I think that things are going along okay at this stage of the game. Better not mess with it. I'm looking forward to what the future holds.

Jeannine

[Heliotrope]

The way things have been going, I kindsa wish Archie had won and then David might have gotten an offer that would have catered more to the way he wanted the album to be and he might have been promoted more. Also he wouldn't have the "American Idol" title and it wouldn't have trouble getting radio stations to take him seriously. I do like the fact that he won, but if he hadn't he still would have made it big, like Daughtry.

Well, you definitely have a point, but I'm still happy David won. May 21, 2008 was a night I will never forget as long as I live. I think David can be succcessful, but once he's not contractually bound to 19/RCA anymore, I think he needs to move on. I am sure any number of powerful labels who will market him the way he should be marketed will be more than happy to snap him right up.

I happen to think that he has been given quite a bit of license in the making of his CD and the formation of his band. I also think that it could very well backfire if he chose to leave a major label like that. He could possibly be labeled as difficult. I think that things are going along okay at this stage of the game. Better not mess with it. I'm looking forward to what the future holds.

Jeannine

Well, he's staying with them for his second album. He can move to another label after that, if they fail to market his second album properly or release powerful singles from it. I think after 2 albums, he wouldn't be labeled a troublemaker if he signs with someone else. I'm sure something could be worked out between RCA and the new label if they are reluctant to let him go. So we'll see what happens. Maybe his second album will really take off like Kelly Clarkson's did, and everyone will be fat and happy again.

[zoo]

Well, he's staying with them for his second album. He can move to another label after that, if they fail to market his second album properly or release powerful singles from it. I think after 2 albums, he wouldn't be labeled a troublemaker if he signs with someone else. I'm sure something could be worked out between RCA and the new label if they are reluctant to let him go. So we'll see what happens. Maybe his second album will really take off like Kelly Clarkson's did, and everyone will be fat and happy again.

I feel he is smart to stick with them for now. This business is so interesting. I was just talking to a musician last night and he told me that LA is much more easy going than Nashville. You irritate someone there, you are in a mess because then nobody wants to work with you. There is so much we just don't know for us to give any sort of advice. There are so many extremely talented musicians out there and yet I still hear stuff on the radio that is so much less quality from what I hear live at some of the clubs. I have decided that any work is good if you can manage it. Weird line of work, if you ask me. If you can make a living in it, then good for you. The term starving musician is taking on much more of a meaning to me. Most of them need a day job to live and you are downright lucky to practice music without another line of work to keep you going.

Jeannine

[reinharv]

I don't think Daughtry necessarily made it big because he was not the winner of A.I. but more of just being in the right place at the right time in the music business & economy. Things have changed since his season. Daughtry was doing small venues but he got lucky in that he opened for a number of big acts that fill stadiums after he did his first tour to promote his record. Daughtry is also with RCA. I like Daughtry but other than his single "Home" I kind of find him boring but I really have never seen him on tour. These guys really make their money not on album sales/singles but touring.

Chris Sligh blogged that "nobody cares about the losers" and that sure you are popular while on A.I. tour but then after that, nobody cares about you. Not all "winners" make it big though they are making a living at it. I saw that Taylor Hicks made a decent salary last year. Yes, it's not millions but he made something like $250K which is nothing to sneeze at & people who have seen his shows rave that he puts out a great show. Even Rueben made a decent amount. Archie made something like $2 million but though Archie isn't what I call "hot" stuff in the business, he'll probably make enough $ & a whole lot more than he ever dreamed of making, at least for another couple of years but I'm not sure about his future. He sold about 735K for his album & his single Crush did fantastic, but yet he is still releasing singles though they aren't really going anywhere. I used to hear him all the time on the radio (more than DC) and now I never hear him. I actually heard DC's CBTM on the radio a couple of days ago. I thought I had my CD in but then the radio announcers started to speak. I started yelling, I was so excited.

Money is really tight & these labels are cutting back big time & they don't have the big budget bucks they used to have & promotion costs a lot of money. Yes, they had DC's promotion $ from winning American Idol but they probably used up a lot of that already so they might not be willing to part with too much of their own money now.

I think it's a mistake for them not to realease another single though but I don't know if that holds back radio stations from playing anything off DCTR if they wanted to. Heck the station I listen to was doing a "Daughtry" hour. I got so upset that Cook doesn't get that kind of promotion.

David might have gotten a lot of license on this album or what is being said, but I'm not too convinced he really did. RCA invests a lot of money so I would think they have a lot of say what goes on it & what is realeased as singles. There were quite a number of songs on that record that were far better than Light On & CBTM & I find it funny that those two songs David didn't have any writing credit on it at all.

I am not against him staying with RCA & 19M for the time being. An artist can do a lot worse than having such a big label & management that have a lot of connections.

I think we need to stay positive because if fans start doubting David's success, people will pick up on that because nothing is sacred on the internet. Google works on the principal that you get more hits (top of the page) when people are posting a lot about a topic. We have to not forget about him, give glowing comments about him whenever we can (but not be too aggressive) and keep the faith. Legends are not created overnight.

[zoo]

I don't think Daughtry necessarily made it big because he was not the winner of A.I. but more of just being in the right place at the right time in the music business & economy. Things have changed since his season. Daughtry was doing small venues but he got lucky in that he opened for a number of big acts that fill stadiums after he did his first tour to promote his record. Daughtry is also with RCA. I like Daughtry but other than his single "Home" I kind of find him boring but I really have never seen him on tour. These guys really make their money not on album sales/singles but touring.

Chris Sligh blogged that "nobody cares about the losers" and that sure you are popular while on A.I. tour but then after that, nobody cares about you. Not all "winners" make it big though they are making a living at it. I saw that Taylor Hicks made a decent salary last year. Yes, it's not millions but he made something like $250K which is nothing to sneeze at & people who have seen his shows rave that he puts out a great show. Even Rueben made a decent amount. Archie made something like $2 million but though Archie isn't what I call "hot" stuff in the business, he'll probably make enough $ & a whole lot more than he ever dreamed of making, at least for another couple of years but I'm not sure about his future. He sold about 735K for his album & his single Crush did fantastic, but yet he is still releasing singles though they aren't really going anywhere. I used to hear him all the time on the radio (more than DC) and now I never hear him. I actually heard DC's CBTM on the radio a couple of days ago. I thought I had my CD in but then the radio announcers started to speak. I started yelling, I was so excited.

Money is really tight & these labels are cutting back big time & they don't have the big budget bucks they used to have & promotion costs a lot of money. Yes, they had DC's promotion $ from winning American Idol but they probably used up a lot of that already so they might not be willing to part with too much of their own money now.

I think it's a mistake for them not to realease another single though but I don't know if that holds back radio stations from playing anything off DCTR if they wanted to. Heck the station I listen to was doing a "Daughtry" hour. I got so upset that Cook doesn't get that kind of promotion.

David might have gotten a lot of license on this album or what is being said, but I'm not too convinced he really did. RCA invests a lot of money so I would think they have a lot of say what goes on it & what is realeased as singles. There were quite a number of songs on that record that were far better than Light On & CBTM & I find it funny that those two songs David didn't have any writing credit on it at all.

I am not against him staying with RCA & 19M for the time being. An artist can do a lot worse than having such a big label & management that have a lot of connections.

I think we need to stay positive because if fans start doubting David's success, people will pick up on that because nothing is sacred on the internet. Google works on the principal that you get more hits (top of the page) when people are posting a lot about a topic. We have to not forget about him, give glowing comments about him whenever we can (but not be too aggressive) and keep the faith. Legends are not created overnight.

Great post! Definitely some things to think about.

I agree with you regarding Daughtry being in the right place at the right time. Sometimes, these things just happen. There is no rhyme or reason as to why. If we worry too much about it, we just frustrate ourselves. As for a Daughtry hour.....well, I guess once David has a CD that sells as well as Daughtry's first one did, he will get an hour of his own, too. At least, that is the way I see it. Daughtry's CD sold extremely well. Perhaps that music was just what the public wanted at the time. Perhaps the viewing audience was so incensed that he left the show so early, it was a knee jerk reaction. I have no idea. All I know is that it happened and he is one lucky musician because of it. I hope he has invested that money he has made wisely.

Looking at the bottom line for some of these ex-contestants and comparing it to where they would be without the show, I would say they are doing okay.....at least a lot better than if they hadn't been on the show. I remember Bo saying that it sure beats selling CDs out of the trunk of his car. And in Mr. Bice's case, I was terribly disappointed in the direction the label had him take. It certainly was not his idea. Perhaps my easy going point of view regarding David's relationship with the label is because I have seen what they did to Bo and I feel David is getting a lot more from them in regards to writing credits and input. His CD is a whole lot closer to being a reflection of his work than in Bo's case with his first CD. It is a pity that Bo's second CD was an indie CD. It was extremely good and received well by the critics, unlike the first CD put out by RCA, but you really need that big label to back you in most cases.

I wholeheartedly agree that David could be doing a lot worse than having a big label and management team behind him and I do agree that our support should be positive without sounding over the top. I'm not saying to make it all puppies and rainbows...not at all. However, angsting and hand wringing doesn't seem to be a productive activity, IMO. The goal is for him to have a long, satisfying career versus a flash in the pan kind of popularity. If it means being patient, then I'm more than willing to do that. I'm here for the long haul.

Jeannine

[Heliotrope]

Chris Sligh blogged that "nobody cares about the losers" and that sure you are popular while on A.I. tour but then after that, nobody cares about you. Not all "winners" make it big though they are making a living at it. I saw that Taylor Hicks made a decent salary last year. Yes, it's not millions but he made something like $250K which is nothing to sneeze at & people who have seen his shows rave that he puts out a great show. Even Rueben made a decent amount. Archie made something like $2 million but though Archie isn't what I call "hot" stuff in the business, he'll probably make enough $ & a whole lot more than he ever dreamed of making, at least for another couple of years but I'm not sure about his future. He sold about 735K for his album & his single Crush did fantastic, but yet he is still releasing singles though they aren't really going anywhere. I used to hear him all the time on the radio (more than DC) and now I never hear him. I actually heard DC's CBTM on the radio a couple of days ago. I thought I had my CD in but then the radio announcers started to speak. I started yelling, I was so excited.

You have a point. Even though the idols you mentioned may be "unsuccessful" by recording industry standards and may not be megastars, they really are very successful in the relative sense. People like Taylor Hicks, Archie and Blake Lewis (so often labeled as "failures") are still making a living doing what they love, and make more money than probably 99% of the population. I also heard Hicks made something like $300 K last year, and that's very impressive. He also still gets to do what he loves--sing. I certainly don't think DC will be a failure, or ever have to go back to bartending to make a living. He's still doing better than many other idols, who themselves aren't doing badly. I guess we should be thinking of the overall picture, rather than if Cook is a megastar like Daughtry or Carrie Underwood. I do know he loves touring, and at least when he performs live, is constantly adding new songs we've never heard before. So even though they're not getting radio airplay, he is still doing what he loves to do, and is much more successful than he would have been had he never gone on Idol.

I agree with you regarding Daughtry being in the right place at the right time. Sometimes, these things just happen. There is no rhyme or reason as to why. If we worry too much about it, we just frustrate ourselves. As for a Daughtry hour.....well, I guess once David has a CD that sells as well as Daughtry's first one did, he will get an hour or his own, too. At least, that is the way I see it. Daughtry's CD sold extremely well. Perhaps that music was just what the public wanted at the time. Perhaps the viewing audience was so incensed that he left the show so early, it was a knee jerk reaction. I have no idea. All I know is that it happened and he is one lucky musician because of it. I hope he has invested that money he has made wisely.

This is a good point too, and one I hadn't thought of. In early 2006, the type of post-grunge rock Daughtry was associated with (though I'd say he's more pop-rock now) was more popular than it was just two years later, in 2008. I think he actually came in during the peak of post-grunge popularity, just before it began to fade from the airwaves. What you hear on commercial radio now (with the exception of highly commerical post-grunge/pseudo-punk bands like Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, or Green Day) is mostly pop, r&b and singer-songwriter type of songs. There is really very little rock played, compared to 2006. So I agree, I think that had something to do with Daughtry's success too.

[reinharv]

This is a good point too, and one I hadn't thought of. In early 2006, the type of post-grunge rock Daughtry was associated with (though I'd say he's more pop-rock now) was more popular than it was just two years later, in 2008. I think he actually came in during the peak of post-grunge popularity, just before it began to fade from the airwaves. What you hear on commercial radio now (with the exception of highly commerical post-grunge/pseudo-punk bands like Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, or Green Day) is mostly pop, r&b and singer-songwriter type of songs. There is really very little rock played, compared to 2006. So I agree, I think that had something to do with Daughtry's success too.

I think a lot of Daughtry's success was probably due to the fact that he was shockingly eliminated at #4 and people (and more people were watching A.I. then), were angry & he was dubbed a "rocker." A.I. usually had contestants that were the tried & true kind: country, R&B & those power ballads types. He was the rocker that didn't win. Yes, he isn't "rock" really, he is pop-rock as is David Cook because rock is just too hard a genre & there isn't a whole lot of "rock" being played on the radio. He also got lucky in that he opened for a couple of hot acts & so he got a lot of exposure. Radio seems to love him too.

My hope is that after this tour is over that maybe RCA get him to open for some big acts just to see how it goes. They did the same for Daughtry, who started out with small venues, so I don't see why they wouldn't do that for Cook. They are in the business to make money & their revenues were down - it's down all over the place. I am also hoping that he'll get some exposure on A.I. again, particularly when he puts out another album.

What I do like is the fact that David seems to have won the hearts of ESPN/Sports & that's a good thing. He isn't just "cougar bait" any more or just the guy who won a reality contest.

I wholeheartedly agree that David could be doing a lot worse than having a big label and management team behind him and I do agree that our support should be positive without sounding over the top. I'm not saying to make it all puppies and rainbows...not at all. However, angsting and hand wringing doesn't seem to be a productive activity, IMO. The goal is for him to have a long, satisfying career versus a flash in the pan kind of popularity. If it means being patient, then I'm more than willing to do that. I'm here for the long haul.

If we don't have faith in David, then it will trickle down. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. We need to keep requesting his songs on radio without being "pests" and keep "googling" him. The markets watch that kind of thing--trends, interests, etc. It shows people are still looking for information about David Cook. Everything you type on the internet is indexed, so we need to be positive & supportive & totally agree- not be OTT like Lambert tards & the like. We need to keep commenting on anything to do with David Cook without being too over the top & be careful.

[womannextdoor]

Great post! Definitely some things to think about.

I agree with you regarding Daughtry being in the right place at the right time. Sometimes, these things just happen. There is no rhyme or reason as to why. If we worry too much about it, we just frustrate ourselves. As for a Daughtry hour.....well, I guess once David has a CD that sells as well as Daughtry's first one did, he will get an hour or his own, too. At least, that is the way I see it. Daughtry's CD sold extremely well. Perhaps that music was just what the public wanted at the time. Perhaps the viewing audience was so incensed that he left the show so early, it was a knee jerk reaction. I have no idea. All I know is that it happened and he is one lucky musician because of it. I hope he has invested that money he has made wisely.

Looking at the bottom line for some of these ex-contestants and comparing it to where they would be without the show, I would say they are doing okay.....at least a lot better than if they hadn't been on the show. I remember Bo saying that it sure beats selling CDs out of the trunk of his car. And in Mr. Bice's case, I was terribly disappointed in the direction the label had him take. It certainly was not his idea. Perhaps my easy going point of view regarding David's relationship with the label is because I have seen what they did to Bo and I feel David is getting a lot more from them in regards to writing credits and input. His CD is a whole lot closer to being a reflection of his work than in Bo's case with his first CD. It is a pity that Bo's second CD was an indie CD. It was extremely good and received well by the critics, unlike the first CD put out by RCA, but you really need that big label to back you in most cases.

I wholeheartedly agree that David could be doing a lot worse than having a big label and management team behind him and I do agree that our support should be positive without sounding over the top. I'm not saying to make it all puppies and rainbows...not at all. However, angsting and hand wringing doesn't seem to be a productive activity, IMO. The goal is for him to have a long, satisfying career versus a flash in the pan kind of popularity. If it means being patient, then I'm more than willing to do that. I'm here for the long haul.

Jeannine

Excellent post! We can't expect overnight super stardom for David. We all have to be patient and let David build his success. To me he has done pretty well in this economy. I think Willow posted a couple of weeks ago that Daughtry and Kellys newest albums have not gone platinum yet despite the singles. And they have alot more previous known track records. Maybe the record label is putting their money in David how they think they will get the most return from. Maybe they want to build up David slowly because they see long term greatness from him and dont want to burn his name into the ground right away to make potientual new fans get sick of him. Remember its hard to get past the AI stigma if people arent ai fans in the first place. I have read comments from men espeically who finally heard David in concert and they would say things like, they really appreciate him now, as before they just didnt like him just because he was on ai. I may be wrong and probably am, but I am going to remain positive and be patient because David is worth it.

[reinharv]

Excellent post! We can't expect overnight super stardom for David. We all have to be patient and let David build his success. To me he has done pretty well in this economy. I think Willow posted a couple of weeks ago that Daughtry and Kellys newest albums have not gone platinum yet despite the singles. And they have alot more previous known track records. Maybe the record label is putting their money in David how they think they will get the most return from. Maybe they want to build up David slowly because they see long term greatness from him and dont want to burn his name into the ground right away to make potientual new fans get sick of him. Remember its hard to get past the AI stigma if people arent ai fans in the first place. I have read comments from men espeically who finally heard David in concert and they would say things like, they really appreciate him now, as before they just didnt like him just because he was on ai. I may be wrong and probably am, but I am going to remain positive and be patient because David is worth it.

Totally. Oversatuation makes people sick. Daughtry was a slow burn in that he was doing small venues at first & still does them. I thought for sure Jordin Sparks would go down in flames & now she's doing quite well for herself. Cook's music is the kind that is for all ages, it's not "seasonal" and I really feel they have plans for him. I think Willow posted something about how she was talking to someone after one of his concerts & that person seemed to be in the know. He said that RCA is very pleased (yes, they should be because he went platinum in less than 4 months in this economy & as a new artist), that they invested a lot of money in him & he's paid them back & then some. They are looking to getting him bigger venues so maybe they have plans for him to go on tour with a bigger name to draw the crowds & gain more interest in Cook's music. Heck when you see him in concert, you know how good he really is. He's one of the guys & men are starting to enjoy his music too - certainly sports guys love him with him being on ESPN quite often (ex: One Second to Change Your Life). They have him book for that Extreme Makeover- home edition, he'll be on Regis & Kelly soon & I expect we'll see more of him. So I don't think that RCA has forgotten him it's just that this record is already a year old & still he's selling about 2K each week. Lord Archie was selling that much after it was out a few months & he dropped off the radar so fast. Sure he's on a different label but that label is part of the 19E family. They will milk Archie for what they can get for as long as they can but they didn't invest a whole lot in Archie & 19M opted not to even manage him. Let's face it, his stuff is tame & a lot of the songs are the same.

A.I. (under the 19E umbrella) wants to prove to the public that it pays to win American Idol otherwise, what's the point of the show if only contestants make it bigger than the winners. They won't give up on Cook just yet. His fans are fantastic & he has a lot of loyal fans. Daughtry is different - Taylor Hicks does a great show, but the public views him as a failure. He makes his money in shows not CDs & he made 300K last year. David make 3 million last year so what do you think 19M & RCA got? A LOT. That is really where the money is for these artists because they get a lot more money doing shows. They get about .99 per album & about .09 per single in sales- that isn't much.

So let's continue to "google" David Cook. We need to visit YouTube & get hits on his videos, leave good comments, & comment on him whenever we can. Remember, TPTB watch who is googled, & how many people look at certain videos on YouTube. It certainly won't hurt - heck Susan Boyle became an "Internet" star & the news media picked it up because of all the millions of hits she was getting on YouTube - just to give you an example.

I'm never going to give up on him - he's fantastic. I've never liked an artist to the extent as Cook - What is it about David Cook?

[zoo]

I'm certainly more happy with them selling out smaller venues than not filling larger ones. I think that the pace is pretty good at this point. Things are building and I am liking the favorable response at the shows where there are lot of people that are still not all that familiar with their work. To me, everything is on task. I agree that the label should be very happy with the results, especially with the economy being the way it is. I would consider this a success at this point. The last thing I would like to see is for things to progress too quickly and resulting in unfilled venues.

You comment regarding Mr. Hicks made me smile. I have always considered him one heck of an entertainer. I'm sorry that the CD sales have been so rotten for him. Personally, I think he is probably one of those who is much better received as a live entertainer than a recording artist. I hate to read the negative comments regarding him because I think he is pretty good in the genre of music he performs. Not everyone excels at both recording and performing live.

Jeannine

[reinharv]

I'm certainly more happy with them selling out smaller venues than not filling larger ones. I think that the pace is pretty good at this point. Things are building and I am liking the favorable response at the shows where there are lot of people that are still not all that familiar with their work. To me, everything is on task. I agree that the label should be very happy with the results, especially with the economy being the way it is. I would consider this a success at this point. The last thing I would like to see is for things to progress too quickly and resulting in unfilled venues.

You comment regarding Mr. Hicks made me smile. I have always considered him one heck of an entertainer. I'm sorry that the CD sales have been so rotten for him. Personally, I think he is probably one of those who is much better received as a live entertainer than a recording artist. I hate to read the negative comments regarding him because I think he is pretty good in the genre of music he performs. Not everyone excels at both recording and performing live.

Jeannine

Well I remember looking at some of Taylor Hick's YouTube stuff & of course you have those haters who say he's a waste of time and some such but then you have some posters who aren't necessarily fans but said they had an opportunity to go to see him in concert & they had a great time & that Taylor puts out a really great show. He's Rock n Roll mostly but that kind of music has always been fun. He didn't come out with a new genre or break records for sure but he's fun, so there isn't anything bad about that. All the people who go to his concerts rave about what a great time they had and many of these comments were from men who were plesantly surprised at how much fun he was.

Not everyone is going to be the next Elvis or Michael Jackson & timing is everything. There just aren't too many mega stars out there really but if you can make a decent living at what you enjoy, then I call that a success - particularly in the music business which is a real tough occupation to be in - lots of ups and downs.

[zoo]

Well I remember looking at some of Taylor Hick's YouTube stuff & of course you have those haters who say he's a waste of time and some such but then you have some posters who aren't necessarily fans but said they had an opportunity to go to see him in concert & they had a great time & that Taylor puts out a really great show. He's Rock n Roll mostly but that kind of music has always been fun. He didn't come out with a new genre or break records for sure but he's fun, so there isn't anything bad about that. All the people who go to his concerts rave about what a great time they had and many of these comments were from men who were plesantly surprised at how much fun he was.

Not everyone is going to be the next Elvis or Michael Jackson & timing is everything. There just aren't too many mega stars out there really but if you can make a decent living at what you enjoy, then I call that a success - particularly in the music business which is a real tough occupation to be in - lots of ups and downs.

Amen to that. I don't know how most musicians manage it, other than to have a day job and play their music at night. I would hate to be in a business that has that much uncertainty. I agree that, if you can actually make a comfortable living playing music, good for you. It's a tough business.

I have never seen Taylor Hicks live. I guess he has been in the business quite a while, though, playing clubs in his area of the country. I think that some people somehow blamed him for Daughtry leaving the show early....which to me makes no sense at all. Daughtry left the show because people just didn't vote enough for him one week. It happens. Not that it matters considering how it all turned out.

Jeannine

[reinharv]

Amen to that. I don't know how most musicians manage it, other than to have a day job and play their music at night. I would hate to be in a business that has that much uncertainty. I agree that, if you can actually make a comfortable living playing music, good for you. It's a tough business.

I have never seen Taylor Hicks live. I guess he has been in the business quite a while, though, playing clubs in his area of the country. I think that some people somehow blamed him for Daughtry leaving the show early....which to me makes no sense at all. Daughtry left the show because people just didn't vote enough for him one week. It happens. Not that it matters considering how it all turned out.

Jeannine

Well my daughter has watched the show since day 1 & she liked Taylor. She loved his personality & he was just fun to watch. She basically said that the reason Daughtry didn't win is mainly because a) people who watched the show thought he was safe & he didn't show that much of a personality & people mainly thought Taylor was fun. However, I don't buy that people thought he was safe & didn't vote. He left at the #4 spot so to me it seems that the three people ahead of him did better. Maybe people voted on how they felt about a performer that week more than the "we don't care how mediocre someone was, we were going to vote for him." I don't know. In any case, he makes a decent living & earning $300K last year he sure makes a whole lot more than the average Joe & doesn't have to do a side job to make ends meet.

[completely]

Not sure this is the place to ask questions, but here I go anyway.

David mentioned on Idol that he was looking for a producer. Is that a "label" or is it something else? I wondered if that means 19 won't be doing this one?

Also, anyone know why David was not given another single? Seems with a million plus in album sales, another single of something like "Lie" might have upped those numbers. I look Adam who got another quick release when the first one didn't produce numbers and wondered why with DC's success, he's low on singles. Daughtry had tons from his first album. (Kris is still on his first)

[zoo]

Not sure this is the place to ask questions, but here I go anyway.

David mentioned on Idol that he was looking for a producer. Is that a "label" or is it something else? I wondered if that means 19 won't be doing this one?

Also, anyone know why David was not given another single? Seems with a million plus in album sales, another single of something like "Lie" might have upped those numbers. I look Adam who got another quick release when the first one didn't produce numbers and wondered why with DC's success, he's low on singles. Daughtry had tons from his first album. (Kris is still on his first)

RCA is still his label and has been since being on AI. That isn't changing. That is a part of 19 Recordings, which is a part of 19 Entertainment Ltd. Here is what a producer does according to Wikipedia...

"...A record producer is an individual working within the music industry, whose job is to oversee and manage the production of an artist's music. The Producer has many roles that include, but are not limited to, coaching the musicians, controlling the recording sessions, gathering the ideas of the product, and supervising the final production through mixing and mastering...."

Hopefully, that clears up the confusion.

The question regarding the releasing of any more singles has been chewed on quite a bit. He is moving on and focusing on the upcoming CD and that is that. I suggest we do that same.

Jeannine

[completely]

RCA is still his label and has been since being on AI. That isn't changing. That is a part of 19 Recordings, which is a part of 19 Entertainment Ltd. Here is what a producer does according to Wikipedia...

"...A record producer is an individual working within the music industry, whose job is to oversee and manage the production of an artist's music. The Producer has many roles that include, but are not limited to, coaching the musicians, controlling the recording sessions, gathering the ideas of the product, and supervising the final production through mixing and mastering...."

Hopefully, that clears up the confusion.

The question regarding the releasing of any more singles has been chewed on quite a bit. He is moving on and focusing on the upcoming CD and that is that. I suggest we do that same.

Jeannine

I didn't mean that it was a problem, I merely wondered why one artist is given multiples when another is not and sales doesn't seem to be the answer since David has many sales and Adam's release was after few. Daughtry had tons of sales and more releases while Kris could definitely use more sales and instead, he has one single. Just doesn't make sense to me and maybe that's my answer. Maybe there is no one way it's done.

I tried to research the philosophy on the Internet, but couldn't find out how and why a company makes these decisions.

I won't mention it again, but just wanted more info about the process.

[zoo]

I didn't mean that it was a problem, I merely wondered why one artist is given multiples when another is not and sales doesn't seem to be the answer since David has many sales and Adam's release was after few. Daughtry had tons of sales and more releases while Kris could definitely use more sales and instead, he has one single. Just doesn't make sense to me and maybe that's my answer. Maybe there is no one way it's done.

I tried to research the philosophy on the Internet, but couldn't find out how and why a company makes these decisions.

I won't mention it again, but just wanted more info about the process.

No worries. I personally think that TPTB felt that the CD had run its course. While it did go platinum, it was never really huge on the radio. the songs on the radio did okay, but were never huge hits. I personally think they could have picked different songs, but I'm not them so I don't have a say. I think it did pretty decent, though. I'm not sure I would have liked "Lie" released as I never really cared for the CD version while I didn't mind the live version.

As far as Kris is concerned, that single of his is still running pretty strong, so they are probably giving it more time. It has done extremely well. His CD is pretty darn good, so I'm curious as to how long it will last. Hard to ever know what the industry's plans are. You just have to make the best out of what you are given.

Jeannine

[completely]

No worries. I personally think that TPTB felt that the CD had run its course. While it did go platinum, it was never really huge on the radio. the songs on the radio did okay, but were never huge hits. I personally think they could have picked different songs, but I'm not them so I don't have a say. I think it did pretty decent, though. I'm not sure I would have liked "Lie" released as I never really cared for the CD version while I didn't mind the live version.

As far as Kris is concerned, that single of his is still running pretty strong, so they are probably giving it more time. It has done extremely well. His CD is pretty darn good, so I'm curious as to how long it will last. Hard to ever know what the industry's plans are. You just have to make the best out of what you are given.

Jeannine

I was just looking at Kris's standing on iTunes and the single is still in the 20's, so I guess though his album is off the top 100, he has a good degree of success with that single. Kris has his own brand of charm and I love his voice, which I think has improved over time. I wish him well and hope that when he has another single, it sticks on the chart too.

I hope that David's next album does very, very well. To be honest, he's a little to hard rock for my tastes in music on many of his songs, which is probably why Lie appealed to me. I love his voice and he comes across as such a nice, intelligent guy. Of all the Idol seasons, David's year was my favorite. I feel is he one of the top talents to grace that stage.

[youvebeencookifi...]

RCA is still his label and has been since being on AI. That isn't changing. That is a part of 19 Recordings, which is a part of 19 Entertainment Ltd. Here is what a producer does according to Wikipedia...

"...A record producer is an individual working within the music industry, whose job is to oversee and manage the production of an artist's music. The Producer has many roles that include, but are not limited to, coaching the musicians, controlling the recording sessions, gathering the ideas of the product, and supervising the final production through mixing and mastering...."

Hopefully, that clears up the confusion.

The question regarding the releasing of any more singles has been chewed on quite a bit. He is moving on and focusing on the upcoming CD and that is that. I suggest we do that same.

Jeannine

Hey Zoo,

You teaching summer school now? lol... True on all the above... what I do know he was searching for a producer for the upcoming CD.

Olivia
YoveBeenCookified

[Mr007]

I agree with all this. Cook will do just fine, but it may be slow going for awhile. He needs to find another label though, who will appreciate what he has to offer.




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