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David Cook Album Discussion Forums - Talk About The New Single, Upcoming Album, & Chart Rankings Here.
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Oct 30 2008, 10:26 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
--------con't from yesterday---
Frump --CHAPTER II-- THE INCIDENT It is early in the competition-- the contest still on the small stage. Everything is new-- the contestants still feeling their way through. In his "getting to know me" video before his performance, David defines himself as a word nerd and speaks of how he enjoys crosswords and learning vocabulary. It certainly gets my attention. An Idol with an affinity for words? Smart! Interesting! Then he sings "Alright Now."” He's feeling good, frosty, tossing picks to the audience-- excited and happy-- giving a really nice show. Randy and Paula love it. Then Simon--trying mightily to make some derogatory comment, being a real frump and throwing ice on the party--finally comes up with: "That video was very uninteresting. You need to do better. Your problem is that you don't have a lot of charisma."” David has a very keen mind. We can see in his face the instant (it only takes about two seconds) he has the perfect retort, then he says it: "Fortunately, I don't need to impress you with my charisma. I need to impress these guys," as he points to the audience. Cheering. Applause. Someone got Simon. It is an impetuous but natural response from our quick-witted word nerd. He isn't thinking about some adverse reaction. David is just playing with words and enjoying the feisty banter. Unfortunately, he does not know Simon. Simon, who feels his importance, obviously does not like to be bested or put down in a "wit"”contest, especially by an arrogant kid and before an audience of millions. He is probably embarrassed. He is definitely angry. --------------continuation tomorrow |
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Oct 31 2008, 06:59 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
------con't from yesterday
Sacrilegious -CHAPTER III- SIMON'S SNIT David is feeling good--a smug little smile teasing the corners of his mouth. He knows he has won this exchange. Simon--his voice icy--strained: "David--the way this works is, you and I have a conversation and then the public chooses. It's called an opinion."” David blinks. This is not a good reaction. His chin goes up, defensive, he realizes he's in trouble-- "Absolutely"--” and is trying to smooth things over and mollify Simon. Paula purses her lips and rolls her eyes at the exchange. Seacrest to Simon: "You look annoyed."” Simon--now more emphatic--being a real prick: "I'm just a bit irritated at the pointing out the rules of the competition. I think I know by now the rules of this competition." Seacrest: "He didn't mean any disrespect."” David--scared now: "No. Not at all."” Simon rolls his eyes. There is no positive comment. As Seacrest gives his call-in numbers we see David, solemn, his expression pained, feeling chastised-- his vitality and energy drained. Then a brief wan smile and it's finished. This was all unnecessary. It embarrassed and frightened David in front of a studio full of people, his friends and family, his hometown fans, and a vast TV audience. It could have affected the voting and lessened his chances of making it through the round. David had to be thinking all these thoughts-- and he had just given a fine performance of "Alright Now." Simon should remember that these contestants are not professionals. They are just kids with talent and they are really vulnerable. But Simon sees himself as THE American Idol icon and demands proper respect for his status, especially from the AI contestants. Since the Hollywood audition, Simon had wanted to take David down. This small bit of "back-talk" then, this sacrilegious lack of veneration for himself, the AI deity, was just the opportunity Simon had been seeking. And he seized it. He drew blood from David that night and continued throughout the next week. As we shall see, this contention nearly ruins the competition. However, at this point neither of our participants know it. ---------continued tomorrow------ |
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Nov 1 2008, 09:12 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
---------Con't from yesterday------
Aborigine CHAPTER IV MELTDOWN There are a few reports of David in a meltdown just before going onstage. It occurred early in the show. The reports referenced only one source however, so the truth of it is a little tenuous. However, given all we now know of events, of David's personality plus some additional information to come, it is possible, maybe even likely, that after the experience with Simon it did happen. Let's examine. Imagine, if you will, it is early in the competition-- the week of the third round--just before "Hello." Last week, after "Alright Now," David was castigated before millions for a "not so bad retort."” David to Billboard reporter, speaking of the incident: ". . .and I didn't say anything bad and I certainly was not trying to be demeaning toward him in any way. . ." *(see entire quote below) And continue to imagine David's chagrin as all during the week Simon has been repeating in public, to reporters, that David is cocky and arrogant. That had to take its toll--leave him worried and afraid about what might happen when he is next on stage and confronting Simon. It has been a hard week for David dealing with the aftereffects of a brief, ill-considered statement. Now it's Tuesday night and time to sing "Hello"” and he has changed it. The song is not Lionel Richie's original. Will the judges like it? Is Simon still angry? Will Simon use this as an opportunity to malign his ability? To tear him down? David has a following in his hometown. But what if Simon says he is no good? David is already building a career. What if Simon calls him cocky and arrogant? What if his fans are watching and they hear? He has already destroyed his aborigine-like, Mohawk-style haircut. Is this sojourn onto Idol going to, also, destroy his reputation? Will his hometown fans reject him? Will those who now recognize his talent think they may be wrong? Fans can be so fickle. And does he really need to face this? To possibly again be humiliated-- embarrassed--harassed--deflated-- before a gazillion people-- on the most watched TV show in existence? All these thoughts are pounding in his head and he's nervous, anyway, before any performance. Reports: "David has been completely stressed out during the entire season. During one of the first shows, David broke down and said he couldn't perform that night -- and changed his mind at the last minute."” "Earlier in the season, just before a performance, David collapsed and said he could not go on -- though he pulled it together at the last minute." I can imagine the scene-- David backstage and dressed for his performance, nervous, upset, in tears with other Idols gathering round, trying to be supportive-- the dressers and stylists hovering, repairing make-up and hair, with his mother and family attempting to comfort and cajole and convince him he is not a quitter. And that would be the suggestion that changed his mind. David has courage. He would never quit and walk away no matter how great the provocation. Although circumstantial, I believe the evidence is strong. It is at this moment--over this seemingly small episode-- that we almost lost David. It would have been such a disaster. ----------story conclusion tomorrow * Full quote from David to Billboard reporter: "I learned a very hard lesson in week two when I sang Free's "Alright Now" and Simon referenced the pre-packaged video and I made some comment and I didn't say anything bad and I certainly was not trying to be demeaning toward him in any way but at the time, it was a speak-before-you-think kind of vibe. The lesson I learned is when Randy, Paula or Simon talks to you, unless they ask you a question, you probably shouldn't say a word. . . . ." |
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Nov 2 2008, 10:07 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
------con't from yesterday Mantic --CHAPTER V-- DENOUEMENT If David had left that night and gone home: There would have been no “Hello” or “Little Sparrow.” There would have been no “Billie Jean” or experiencing the joy of the finale. We would not have witnessed his transformation nor would we be “word nerds” or have all the wonderful memories of a summer filled with concerts and meetings and pictures and touching. We would never have come to know him and the arc of our lives would not be holding this beautiful new dimension which is continuing to weave its magic. His leaving the show would have been, quite simply, tragic and it takes no mantic prophesizing to understand how much our lives would be diminished without him. But, instead, David managed to pass by this moment and the season went on. “Hello” became a standard by which to judge all the others. David grew and commanded, gained confidence and stature. He put this incident behind and later even found an opportune spot to have some fun with it. On a results show, David: “Earlier in the season he (Simon) called me arrogant and smug and pompous and I was just wondering what other adjectives could be used to say the same thing.” Cue laughter from the audience and Simon. And another find-- a moment to practice discretion and deference and refine this “very hard learned lesson:” Seacrest: “Simon said you looked a little smug last night. How do you react to that? David: (Hands in pockets, sheepish) “I don’t.” And we hear Simon’s raucous laughter. This is the history, the facts, the compilation of events that occurred and formed a part of the panorama that has engrossed and enthralled and captured us for almost a year. This is what happened. “There are a hundred stories on American Idol and this has been but one.” |
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Nov 3 2008, 04:56 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Doyen They were all nervous on SNL. And David? W-e-l-l-- I'd have to say he was VERY nervous. After a year on American Idol, after a summer of concerts and singing before thousands, after innumerable appearances and creating a record and tracking a single and making a video-- he was still VERY nervous. But now he is the leader, the instigator, the reason for the band's existence. He carries RESPONSIBILITY for others, for his band members and his producers, for his label and writers, for himself and to his family and friends and his millions of fans. He may not be the oldest, but he is the doyen--the head-- the One that all turn to and point to and from whom all demand PERFECTION. It makes all the difference. |
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Nov 4 2008, 08:38 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Opine Now I understand why you were apologizing. "We're trying to make this video appeal to as broad an audience as possible. You know--a boy meets girl, boy gets girl kind of vibe."” Those were your words, sort of, and when you said them I saw a small red flag and I thought: "He doesn't like it."” Tomorrow I'll inveigh against the producers and opine on the colossal mistakes they are making. (I'm old so I have no qualms about speaking my mind.) Just don't be too embarrassed, Sweetie. You looked great and sang great and I really like that the Mohawk has disappeared--again. I know that video was not your decision. It was some producer who has his/her "Davids" confused. I'll still buy it for I support your every endeavor. But will I again watch it? No. Never. |
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Nov 5 2008, 05:46 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Imprimatur Let's call a spade a spade. That video was not David. And it was bad. We do David no favors by pretending it was anything other. David is sophisticated, mature, sexy and honest. That video was "none of the above." It may have been filmed well, I'll give that to the director, but the story was atrocious. Even I could write better. Just give me thirty minutes. Did any of the so called experts now surrounding our David and managing and expanding and growing his career ever listen to "Light On?"” It's a beautiful song filled with anxiety and desire and heartbreak and longing. It's a song about vulnerability and responsibility and fulfilling one's duty even when leaving your loved ones and facing some "great unknown."” The song is just much too heavy for a lightweight story about pre-teen angst while sipping on a soda. It's important that EVERY output, EVERY performance bearing David's imprimatur be something that will lead him forward and will advance him in the eyes of those he needs to impress. He can't build a career as a rock star with some pre-teen, high school mentality. A video like this diminishes him in the eyes of those rock aficionados who will form the basis of his success. Couple this latest debacle with the lack of promotion before his single, the lack of radio play after its roll-out, the timing of its release--in the midst of several well-known artist outputs-- and I have to wonder, who are these people guiding and leading and helping David? I've been content up to now to give them the benefit of the doubt, but my confidence in their ability has taken a nose-dive quite precipitous. I know they have big names and compelling histories, but they are hurting David, not supporting him. Do they really know what they are doing? I can't help but ask. |
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Nov 6 2008, 11:25 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Putrefaction Have you ever seen a barnyard hen when one of her brood is threatened? I have. It's not a pretty sight. Her feathers stand up, her wings are aflap. There is a cacophony of raucous and strident and virulent squawking. And the unearthly beam emanating from her eyes as she charges the menace, willing to fling herself into the very jaws of death, would dissect and cleave and slice up your flesh. This is what I may become soon as I am witnessing the yellow flags of caution and am beginning to perceive some danger building. The latest signal was the video. For the music world can be incredibly cut-throat and, although there are good people around and in it, there are others who only want to make money off of an artist. And they will if they can. So my white hair is electrified and standing on end. And the demonic glint in my eye cries a fair warning to any degenerate of loose moral turpitude or putrefaction that would misuse or abuse our David. For he is one of my chicks now. And he is beautiful and good and decent. So like the old mother hen that I am, I will guard and defend him and battle and contend for him until my last breath ends. |
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Nov 6 2008, 02:43 PM
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Been Cook'ified ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 17-June 08 From: Rosario, Argentina Member No.: 9,909 |
I was so relieved to read what you opined about Light On's video! I was afraid I might be the only one who really really did not like it.....at all..... I thought it's whole concept was too corny, too adolescent and an inappropriate reflection of the lyrics. I don't think I have mantic powers, but I must say I saw this coming...especially after taking a look at the "Ricky Martin style" cover photo...So, I also wonder, who gave the imprimatur to this "overcomercial" version of David? You are right gmgr, they are not helping him grow and develop his true potential...not like this...they are only putrefying and corrupting his artistic essence.
(I have no idea if I used the words "opined" and "imprimatur" properly...I'm getting rusty |
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Nov 7 2008, 06:08 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Progeny As the long expected birth approaches and we face, ready to embrace, your creative progeny our minds race as we search for you and for your thoughts and seek to know you through the snippets of songs from your new album. These small tastes enchant us. I was so relieved to read what you opined about Light On's video! I was afraid I might be the only one who really really did not like it.....at all..... I thought it's whole concept was too corny, too adolescent and an inappropriate reflection of the lyrics. I don't think I have mantic powers, but I must say I saw this coming...especially after taking a look at the "Ricky Martin style" cover photo...So, I also wonder, who gave the imprimatur to this "overcomercial" version of David? You are right gmgr, they are not helping him grow and develop his true potential...not like this...they are only putrefying and corrupting his artistic essence. (I have no idea if I used the words "opined" and "imprimatur" properly...I'm getting rusty Word usage is fine, VC. Commercial has two "ms". Great use of so many of the "words of the day". How are things in Argentina? Is it springtime? |
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Nov 8 2008, 12:37 PM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Gustation In dreams-- senses exploding-- we see him and hear him, touch then awake and smile for there, beyond aroma, beyond simple gustation are smell and taste and remembering the dream. |
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Nov 9 2008, 06:41 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Careen Rock music, the exemplar of our culture, from its starting point its sounds and words and thought patterns moved outward to an extreme, beyond the tastes of the majority who believed that “good” rock was over and so left then watched as rock came fumbling and stumbling and careened back toward the center-- and yet, and yet we notice, not all the way back-- not a return to the beginning, just toward it. This movement, out to the edges, back toward the center, expansion then contraction is seen throughout the progression of history. It is the pattern of politics and social mores and societal “values.” It is life as we live it. David is in the era of the centering, a normalization that, for him, should prove quite successful before rock music begins, again, to march outward, toward the extremes, to lead and reflect the reaching, the forward searching of a society, its culture and its people. |
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Nov 10 2008, 06:43 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Cram Do you know how long all this has been going on? It began last January, almost a year ago, with an innocent look at a show I had seen for six years with little interest or fascination. Then by April one contestant had me booked, hooked, tied up, totally Cooked reeled in and locked and it still has not stopped. I've never been a "fan"”before. Does this go on forever? For over six months now --every day-- I have written, watched, inveighed, played and I'm still trying to cram in more of David! This is all very peculiar. |
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Nov 11 2008, 07:07 AM
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An Official Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 7,136 |
Humdrum So here I shall end these days of writing and versifying. It has been a merry time. My life has changed. I've left behind the humdrum existence of one my age and found another calling that beckons with excitement and fascination and with challenge. David has done this for me. I am now immersed in music and writing lyrics and verse and songs and have found an outlet for some creativity that had never before appeared. To hear the sounds in my head I had to buy a Yamaha keyboard and resurrect some training that had been long forgotten. I'm still amazed at what has happened. There are some who are encouraging me to take this forward and find some space to shape and leave a bit of myself on a small part of our world. I want to try. It requires a lot of attention so I'll not come here again. Thanks to all those who read my offerings and to those who said they enjoyed my thinking. Your words were assuring and a part of this transfiguration. I am grateful. This is all your fault, David. |
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Nov 18 2008, 06:00 PM
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Been Cook'ified ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 17-June 08 From: Rosario, Argentina Member No.: 9,909 |
It's 11 PM here in Argentina, and I´m sitting in my bed, PC on my lap, listening to the new CD and not being able to stop the involuntary saltation produced by these wonderful new songs.....but suddenly the words I read in the screen make me seat still with a perplexed look on my face...
Reading your verses, thoughts and reflections over the last months has been a pleasure, P, I will surely miss it (but I'm very glad you'll be doing something creative because I'm sure your heart and soul still have a lot to give). Love, Virginia |
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Nov 28 2008, 07:07 PM
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Been Cook'ified ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 15-August 08 From: new york Member No.: 12,135 |
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Oct 6 2009, 04:12 PM
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Starting To Like Cookies ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 19-July 08 Member No.: 11,359 |
LOL same here and whenver I tell people I am a word nerd they go.... why? You like to call yourself a nerd? Then I tell them my obsession over DC and then the get it (most of the time.)
You have David's tuxedo shirt? Cool, I reall want one where can I order it or was it only a one chance thing? I have the bracelt I bought at the concert I wear it everyday! |
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