David Archuleta's single Crush debuted this morning on Z100 in New York

Anyone know if there are plans for David A to sing this on the rest of the AI tour? Release date is Aug 12. I think it's kinda cute, actually, in an n'sync/backstreet boys kind of way.

Not sure, but I totally love this song! Go Archie (even though I don't believe for one second that you have a crush on anyone)! LITTLE BRO FTW!

i like this...

i hope not. jordin didn't.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did add this to his set. It will help him sell more copies of the single and his potential album if he does. It would also help him, because it is a song appropriate to his age, that his peers can really get behind to support. I am sure his management realizes this and he is probably working on the live version with the AI tour band now. I wonder what song he will take out if/when he adds this?

I bet he'll play it at Ford Day on Sept 19th, if not on the tour. I just hope he doesn't drop Apologize from the set! That's my favorite.

Okay, I was all set to not like this song. I actually REALLY like it.....a great, catchy little pop song!

They generally do NOT change their set list once the tour has started. I would be very surprised if they did.

I wouldn't think so either - previous concert goers might feel gipped that they didn't get to hear the new single live and future concert goers might feel gipped that a favorite song was replaced. Just speculation. Is there any precedent for adding someone's new single to the tour?

I really like the song too - nitpicks: it doesn't take advantage of his great range and sounds a tiny bit overproduced - but I guess I'm just an acoustic gal and I'll still buy it for sure.

GOOOOOOOOOO LITTLE BRO!!!!!!!!

Hmmm... Just OK for me, dawg. But maybe it"ll grow on me. Guess I'm just more of a rocker type.

well KLC did change up her set in canada....but I highly doubt he will permanently change it, that takes him learning the song live the band learning it, all it the middle of a stressful tour.. I doubt it but overall I like this song

lil bro has done well, DC still prevails though

why do we keep discussing david archuleta on here? i swear this is like the fourth topic today.

The only reason Kristy sang Anyway instead of God Bless The USA was because she was in Canada. It would have seemed kind of weired for her to have sung that song there. lol She has gone back to singing God Bless The USA since the concert in Toronto.

As far as Archie's new single, no I don't think he will be singing it on the tour. Jordin didn't sing Tattoo on the tour when it was released last year.

*SMACKS HEAD* makes complete since now LOL!!!

Oh don't feel bad. I even thought it was weird at first. I was listening to the cellcast at Rickey's and then after the concert was over then it dawned on me why she didn't sing it. I felt like I was slow.

Let me start by saying that I think "Crush" could be a pretty big hit for DA, which would be great. I wanted to be positive right off the bat. But... it's not the type of music I like all that much, or listen too. I'm not big on the very youth oriented Top 40. I'm a rock guy, and that includes commerical pop-rock as well as more obscure alternative/indie rock. When I decide to listen to music other than rock, it's usually at a club at night where I like dance music (which is rare these days!) or if I get into a show tunes mood. That said, I find it sort of interesting how out of Archie's "zone" it is, yet it kind of works for him. I was all set to be critical, the way everyone was with the Chris Brown song he did and the whole "boo" phrase, but "Crush" does show off his voice and I think the younger audience might like it. Personally, I hope they do. I have no problem with both Davids going platinum!
Since the question was "will DA play it on the tour?" I will answer with a "probably not." I don't see it. He'll start promoting it when the tours over... apples and oranges, strategy-wise. BUT... last night in Tulsa, could happen, especially if it charts well between now and then!

I'm glad he didn't go the Groban route with this song. I think it could easily be a hit. I wouldn't have any problem with either of them going platinum myself.

I think we are discussing DA because he's DC 's very good friend and he has a new single out today. Just yesterday DC sent the blog message to us to support DA and KLC with their new records. Which I would do anyway as I think they are all talented in their own way. I think DC didn't want us to worry that his next single isn't out yet and to give DA's a chance.

Since DA really is precious, I do want him to do well. The song fits his age, and he does a good job on it. My biggest concern was that he needed uptempo more modern songs. I like this one for him. It has an up to date feel with chorus that showcases his best vocals.

I'm not surprised he didn't go the Groban route for a single. Groban's style of music is not top 40, really. His music doesn't not normally appeal to their target audience.

Jeannine

Um, because I posed the question on whether DA would perform this at any time during the remainder of the AI tour? Because DA & DC are bro buddies?

I love it! Anything with guitars gets me all the time - I hope this becomes a HUGE hit for Archie - he is such a sweetie.

I dunno about these things, did other Idols in the past tours start singing their single if it dropped during the concert run?

Not to be a contrary voice in the Archie luv, and I'm neutral about whether he's successful overall < shrugs > but == Meh, I think it sounds like Backstreet Boys/NSync circa early 2000s with a lot of unusual techno wizardry with his voice and mostly electronic instruments rather than organic. Pro'lly a hit on radio but it sounds very generic to me. If I didn't know it was Archie,,,, I wouldn't know. It would be just another formulaic song on the radio I surf over or, just hang on cuz it's ending soon and I wanna know what will play after it.

I don't think it will be performed on the tour, as AI and Jive Record are two different companies!!

It's not very simple to organise things like this!

But maybe they will...

you know what i was told today? that since I am a word nerd I cant be a Archie fan do other word nerds feel this way?

WHAT that is just wrong i think you can be a fan of any1 i think archie is great but i am not a fan but i mean you can be a word nerd and be an archie fan whoever said that doesn't know what they are talking about!

In the words of THE NUMBER ONE WORD NERD David Cook, he wants us to support all the Idols. So knock yourself out and be a fan of both of them!!

That's exciting for him. I would like to see him sing it on the tour.

Yeah I love discussling Little Bro too and besides Cookie did ask us to support him And for those so inclined you HAVE to watch the video of Archie listening to his song on the radio for the first time. It's at Z100 too.


Not mature ones.

Oh, ok. So Cook fans must be an Archie fan, lest they be labeled immature?????

I don't recall Cook posting in his blog that I had to DL Archie or KLC's singles, either. There is no iron-clad contract as a Cook fan that means I have to go within 100 feet of either song. Archie can fail or succeed on his own. I am not legally required to help him out.

Why aren't you pimping Cook or putting HIS song on your website or streaming HIS song at MySpace 10,000 times? Why the urge to support his competitor above all other things? Where's the excitement to push the namesake of this fan board? Does anybody care about him?

How about supoorting TOML while you're all determined to make sure Archie does as well as possible, since that's the priority? Or does nobody care about that anymore?

And while we're at it, I don't believe that you can't be and Archie fan and a Cook fan at the same time. If you really love them both, then support them both. I don't know why one feels though that one has to support Archie when one would not be inclined to do otherwise. Why do I need to go near Archie's song when I wouldn't do so otherwise in a million years just because of a vague statement Cook puts on his website? Why do I have to be insulted by other people if I DON'T want to do that? David Cook can support whoever he wants and joint Cook/Archie fans can support whoever they want but if I'm not an Archie fan already why do I have to become one?

Really - that is not right. I was at the concert this past week in NJ and I totally enjoyed Archie.

DC supports his little brother - we can all be respectful and wish Archie the best as well.

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Why the urge to support his competitor above all other things? Where's the excitement to push the namesake of this fan board? Does anybody care about him?


Hmmm, I am of the opinion that they are no longer competitors. DC WON the competition. They respect each other and David Cook is the kind of human being that would share his fan base easily.
Cook and Archuleta are now friends. Cook believes that his friends want the best for him contrary to what Simon said before "Friends never do"

David Cook musst have some flaws somewhere...but I certainly don't see any. He is an actor of sorts having been in theater some, so maybe....nah...that is not possible. I see a REAL genuine, caring, sharing, loving, grateful, thoughtful sincere young man who is just now being seen by the entire world for the first time.

This guy restores my faith in the human race. I am not a lustful "Cougar" but more a person in love with a true artis's art and character. I wish someone would tell David that "cougar" should not be construed as a scary "dirty" old lady term. Maybe some women are...but geez.
David, please have no fear. We are just having some fun in middle age, some for the first time in many years. Babyboomers REFUSE to grow old you know.

Enough from me...

Cherie

You go girl! I have to agree. When the vicious comments were being left on Cookie's YouTube video performances, it was by the Archies. I think Archie is great, but he is not my music taste. I could never purchase his music as a show of support just because of his vicious fans. I'm a bit of a vindictive sob myself and I can't buy somebody a beer that's been whacking me over the head with a club just because they stopped. But, that's just me.

i didn't mean to start an argument *hides* please know I am a Cookie fan first and foremost

I can read what seems to be the most benign thread on this board and it ALWAYS turns into some kind of controversy. Can't we all just get along and let everyone enjoy what they want to enjoy without criticism or back-biting? The whole tone of this board is making me sick lately, and I'll bet if David or his people are reading any of it they're feeling the same way!
Lighten up and enjoy life and the beauty of it that we are here to support, lest it goes away and you have nothing but your own words to listen to!

I'm confused by your post. Not by your message, but that it seemed to be directed at me because you quoted my last reply ??? Just curious.

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I don't have a beef with Archie, he seems like a sweet guy and I totally dig the brotherly bond and feel the respect that Cook and Archie have for one another is genuine and I find it endearing.

But I'm allowed to like whatever music I like.

When Cook rattled off his influences, I was like OOH I know them, I like them, too! The songs he sang on AI - DYTM, Innocent, TWIK - I knew all those songs before and was totally digging that he identified with them so much to choose them for his AI songs.

But then as I learned more about Cook, I came across bands I had not heard of before. I listened to them, because that's how music appreciation often works - word of mouth. Some of the bands, I liked. Some of the bands, not so much. < Shrugs > no big deal, y/n? That doesn't mean it changes my opinion of Cook - that he likes a band I'm not fond of.

So when Cook says on his blog to support Archie and KLC, I'm open to hearing the music. But it's not a cult and he's not my mind controller and I think and make decisions for myself. If I like it, fine. If not, so what? I'm allowed to not like a song or not like certain music without it having anything to do with the artist.

So IDGI. A thread about a song turns into a thread about a person. Not the same thing.

I'm not even an Archie fan, but that's actually pretty good!

Off the Chain, totally not directed at you.

If you want to go ahead and support Archie because you like him, I feel everyone should be able to go ahead. I just feel if they are really joint fans they should try to support Cook as much as possible, too.

OTOH, if I do not like Archie and do not want to support him, I should be allowed to do that and should not be personally attacked because I do not want to support him. I do not like being told that I am not a Cook fan if I do not support Archie or that he would be ashamed of me because I do not want anything to do with the single.

I don't think David Cook will disown me as a fan because I don't do everything he suggests on his MySpace.

Just based upon reading all this stuff, it seems to me that controversy isn’t at all caused by the artists. It is the fans that seem to throw a wrench into the workings.

David A and David C are friends. Of course they wish to support each other’s work and would hope that their fanbases would show good will towards the other artist and their fanbase. It makes perfect sense.

That being said, if I don’t care for a style of music, I’m certainly not going to devote any of my time to it just because they are friends. Not that I’m thinking any kind of ill will towards the other person. I’m just not interested in the music. I wish him well and that is that. He is not my friend, so I don’t really feel obligated at all. Does that make me a “bad fan”? I guess it depends upon who you ask. I’m alright with whatever you think. I don’t live or die based upon popular opinion. I’m at a loss as to why this gets so darned personal.

Jeannine

Whoa..you know, I highly doubt David would like everyone arguing about why we're discussing Archie in here. Personally..I think it's a good song, and I think that David wants us to support his friend. He even said so in his latest blog.

You guys really don't get it do you. This is not about the comraderie between the Davids or the mutual respect and love they have for each other. It's about the fact that the Archies will never get over the fact that their guy is not the American Idol and somehow it was stolen from him. Okay, let's do a Rodney King " Can't we all just get along?", but wait until the two Davids are nominated for a Grammy for best new artist and see how jovial they are on the forums and video comment boards if their guy loses to Cookie again. They will be competing against each other in the music marketplace for years to come. Each artist does, like it or not. Archuleta will have a long and fabulous career, no doubt, but I hope that Cookie sells more cd's than Archie just to show them that he deserved to win and they need to get over it. Sorry to be so negative on an otherwise lighthearted board, but this is probably the last place to be promoting Archie's music. Maybe this is just a guy thing.

Your point is well taken, but I think what alot of people are saying here (at least I am), in terms of buying/listening, it is not a competition anymore for us because we can enjoy and buy music from both - it's not a choice of one or the other. If I could only buy one artist's music it would be Cookie's. I suppose if financial issues prohibit someone from buying more than one album a year - that would be different.

I agree with you about the grammy thing - I am sure either David would love that kind of recognition but I don't have a vote there.

So when all is said and done I have to side with Cookie's blog and support at least Archie since I'm inclined to anyway. Don't like Kristy Lee's single so I won't buy it plain and simple.

As for it being a guy thing - maybe - are guys more competitive?? HA HA not enough hours in a day to debate that one


No that's not what I meant. Yes I do think it is immature for someone to tell someone else they CAN'T be something. So of course I'm not saying Cook fans have to be Archie fans.

We voted for David for a reason, it doesn't make sense to promote Archie here, there are plenty of Archie boards for that. I don't think the competition is over until the sales numbers come in for their first CD's. David may have won, but he needs to follow through with big numbers to seal the deal. If he does that then the competion is over. JMO

Ha ha ha ha ha maybe it is a guy thing

I know the competition will continue, at least for the Archie fans, because their guy didn't win. And the internet is a free and infinite landscape, so Archie fans will come here and stir trouble. But that's the part that amuses me. I'm not hanging out on Archie or other AI aritist boards. I'm a Cook fan and this is the site for me. Drive by's from the Archies seem like such a waste of good energy but <shrugs> whatev.

What I don't like are Cook fans telling me (hypothetically) that I have to support Archie's music because Cook suggested it on a blog. Um, no. I will support whomever's music I please.

It is premature to make such predictions but I will throw caution to the wind and do it anyway ::::: based solely on this paint-by-numbers single from Archie, I don't think it's enough to garner him a Best New Artist nom

I'm not so sure. Just some thoughts - consider the big picture. The music industry is not in good shape right now. Buying music - any music - contributes to the health of the industry and benefits everyone in it. Perhaps that is another reason Cookie is encouraging support (not TELLING us we have to). I think we have to give Cookie credit that he wouldn't encourage support for the other idols if he felt it was going to hurt his chances of achieving what he wants to in his career.

I actually don't get why we have three threads on this board that basically talk about the same thing. I think at least 2 of threads should be deleted. 2 are about ARchie's single, 1 is Kristie Cook/David A releasing their single and the other is this current one. They all say the same thing. Actually with the one we are in now - we got off the topic totally.

Also on the d-c.org webpage - there is a link to hear Archie's new song that pops up occasionally - that is sufficient.

I agree we don't need 3 threads but I think having an open-minded discussion about David's blog including his request for support is a good idea. So 1 thread not 3 is my vote.

I LOVE the song, LOVE Archie, and I hope that he starts to sing it on tour now!!

Oy, this has turned into something unncessary. I think what the bottom line is that the competition is over..we know David won..and I really don't see anything wrong with supporting both of them. I'm obviously always going to choose David over Archie, but I'm still going to listen to what Archie puts out.

Avazanne - I agree with you - there should be 1 thread for having open-minded discussion about David's blog including his request for support and 1 for Archie's new single.

Overall we have a tendency to start threads with the same topic - to bad there is not a way to merge the ones that are the same/similiar together.