tracig
Aug 4 2008, 08:34 AM
annette
Aug 4 2008, 08:44 AM
Thanks for sharing this tracig.
Remember this is a tabloid...I doubt that the tone used, or the quote are what Cook would say to OK magazine of all sources. The media seems to focus on his dating(which is a touchy subject to some...and the cougar thing.) He has fans. Poor guy they ask him about it every time, almost implying that those are the only fans he has and that is the only reason he won. I am an older fan, but it was my 11 year old and 21 year old that got on the phone to vote for him.
CookieMonsterGirl
Aug 4 2008, 08:59 AM
Wow, that article is unfortunate for him. He can lose a whole lot of fans saying things like that. And what does his dating Kim have to do with the older fans? I mean, I'm 17 but if he's taken, he's taken. That makes him off the market for everyone. Is that supposed to matter?
Cathe
Aug 4 2008, 09:09 AM
I read the article and it doesn't ring true. Haven't we seen time and time again that he doesn't talk about his personal relationship?
ChiCook
Aug 4 2008, 09:15 AM
"preying cougars" ?? What's that supposed to mean?
Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 09:19 AM
OK Magazine is sort what I consider tabloid trash. It seems that they have taken things he's said before and twisted them out of context. That article doesn't ring true to me either. I wouldn't believe a word of it. I think they took words he said and manipulated them to such a degree to make David look bad. Notice they said there that he had been linked to KC for several months, ummm no, he didn't ask her out until the night of the finale. He's said himself in other interviews that talk about their relationship has been twisted around in the media. Notice the term, "preying cougars" were not his words directly, that was an Ok Mag manipulation.
QUOTE
The 25-year-old singing sensation tells OK! he's a bit uncomfortable with all the attention he's received from preying cougars since winning Idol.
Notice that sentence is
not in quotes.
Cooked by Cook
Aug 4 2008, 09:27 AM
QUOTE (CookieMonsterGirl @ Aug 4 2008, 09:59 AM)

Wow, that article is unfortunate for him. He can lose a whole lot of fans saying things like that. And what does his dating Kim have to do with the older fans? I mean, I'm 17 but if he's taken, he's taken. That makes him off the market for everyone. Is that supposed to matter?
This is where being an "older"(I'm an tired of all this Cougar stuff) fan comes in handy. I have stopped buying tabloid magazines. 99% of what they write is out of context, recycled, and misquoted. There was a huge discussion on this on another forum. The consensus there was to dismiss the whole thing...
Scott
Aug 4 2008, 09:30 AM
QUOTE (Pam08 @ Aug 4 2008, 10:19 AM)

OK Magazine is sort what I consider tabloid trash. It seems that they have taken things he's said before and twisted them out of context. That article doesn't ring true to me either. I wouldn't believe a word of it. I think they took words he said and manipulated them to such a degree to make David look bad. Notice they said there that he had been linked to KC for several months, ummm no, he didn't ask her out until the night of the finale. He's said himself in other interviews that talk about their relationship has been twisted around in the media. Notice the term, "preying cougars" were not his words directly, that was an Ok Mag manipulation.
Notice that sentence is not in quotes.
Yep, they're notorious for taking things out of context. You all know David and his personality and his manners. You've seen him in countless on camera interviews, and hundreds of fans on this site have met him in person and recounted those amazing experiences. You decide who the "real" David is. I believe what I see and what all my friends on this site tell me about how gracious he is when they meet him. I don't put any stock in that article. I don't even think this is from a new interview. OK interviewed him like 6 weeks ago and they keep circulating stuff. A
"new" fan base, cougars and moms??? Hello, that's been common knowledge since that "cougars for cook" sign was flashed in Top 3 (or was that further back, in Top 4?). The tabloids are going to get frustrated because, unless he really did father a child that we don't know about from a few years ago, there's no dirt to dig up on him. He's a pretty clean fellow... and in celebrtiy circles he's squeaky clean!
Slayer12
Aug 4 2008, 09:31 AM
It looks like they're just trying to stir up controversy. I'd ignore it. It's just more tabloid trash.
X-Jersey Girl
Word Nerd #2619
Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 09:33 AM
QUOTE (Scott @ Aug 4 2008, 01:30 PM)

Yep, they're notorious for taking things out of context. You all know David and his personality and his manners. You've seen him in countless on camera interviews, and hundreds of fans on this site have met him in person and recounted those amazing experiences. You decide who the "real" David is. I believe what I see and what all my friends on this site tell me about how gracious he is when they meet him. I don't put any stock in that article. I don't even think this is from a new interview. OK interviewed him like 6 weeks ago and they keep circulating stuff. A "new" fan base, cougars and moms??? Hello, that's been common knowledge since that "cougars for cook" sing was flashed in Top 3 (or was that further back, in Top 4?). The tabloids are going to get frustrated because, unless he really did father a child that we don't know about from a few years ago, there's no dirt to dig up on him. He's a pretty clean fellow... and in celebrtiy circles he's squeaky clean!
Scott,
You just gave a pretty good example there of how we know someone has made it big. When they can't find dirt, then they will create it.
Typical tabloid fodder. Foolish to believe any of it. It is just an annoyance that celebrities get to put up with.
Jeannine
Scott
Aug 4 2008, 09:35 AM
QUOTE (Pam08 @ Aug 4 2008, 10:33 AM)

Scott,
You just gave a pretty good example there of how we know someone has made it big. When they can't find dirt, then they will create it.

Yes, and when he get's into the National Enquirer I'll be really happy! But sad for the few who believe the non-sense. But I can't recall a tabloid EVER ruining a celeb career. Celebs do a much better job of doing it themselves, and winding up on the 5 O'clock news!!
Grandmajoyce
Aug 4 2008, 09:35 AM
Not every older fan is a "preying cougar". I don't want to "jump" him, I just want to enjoy his music and his caring soul.
*TheLastRockette*
Aug 4 2008, 09:35 AM
His words seem pretty innocent, as usual the magazine have beef'd it out and made it something bigger!
Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 09:37 AM
QUOTE (Scott @ Aug 4 2008, 01:35 PM)

Yes, and when he get's into the National Enquirer I'll be really happy! But sad for the few who believe the non-sense. But I can't recall a tabloid EVER ruining a celeb career. Celebs do a much better job of doing it themselves, and winding up on the 5 O'clock news!!
Exactly, I can think of several that fit that category, Brittney, Lohan, etc. etc.
Scott
Aug 4 2008, 09:37 AM
QUOTE (Grandmajoyce @ Aug 4 2008, 10:35 AM)

Not every older fan is a "preying cougar". I don't want to "jump" him, I just want to enjoy his music and his caring soul.
If he even said it at all. He may have been tongue and cheek and merely said it's unnerving as all the huge fan adoration was at first. I think this is from a long time ago. This is NOT from a new interview. They're hashing up old stuff.
QUOTE (Scott @ Aug 4 2008, 10:35 AM)

Yes, and when he get's into the National Enquirer I'll be really happy! But sad for the few who believe the non-sense. But I can't recall a tabloid EVER ruining a celeb career. Celebs do a much better job of doing it themselves, and winding up on the 5 O'clock news!!
So very true.
My mom used to have a suscription of the National Enquirer. To her, it was the gospel truth.
Jeannine
Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 09:41 AM
QUOTE (zoo @ Aug 4 2008, 01:39 PM)

So very true.
My mom used to have a suscription of the National Enquirer. To her, it was the gospel truth.
Jeannine
I'm sure some people still think that it is.
Scott
Aug 4 2008, 09:42 AM
QUOTE (Pam08 @ Aug 4 2008, 10:37 AM)

Exactly, I can think of several that fit that category, Brittney, Lohan, etc. etc.

Yes, and even with the horrible year in the news Britney has had, her CD came out during it all and was a smash hit!!!! Anyway, David has said numerous times that he embraces his older fans, and that he likes older women. This question may have been thrown to him more recently than I thought (becuase of the Caldwell reference), but again, we don't know the tone and the context.
Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 09:43 AM
QUOTE (Scott @ Aug 4 2008, 01:42 PM)

Yes, and even with the horrible year in the news Britney has had, her CD came out during it all and was a smash hit!!!! Anyway, David has said numerous times that he embraces his older fans, and that he likes older women. This question may have been thrown to him more recently than I thought (becuase of the Caldwell reference), but again, we don't know the tone and the context.
That's true, in some cases, controversy sells.
Scott
Aug 4 2008, 09:47 AM
Also, I work in a local newsroom here in LA, and although we all like to do our stories pretty straight forward on TV news, some producers and writers love to put that edge on a story and give it a tabloid feel... those of us who hate that sort of thing bark back at them with a sarcistic saying: "never let the facts get in the way of a good story." So if this goes on in local newsrooms, you can imagine what's done in the tabloids and glossies. People Mag "plays nice," as does E.T. and Access Hollywood, so that they have complete access to (and exclusives with) the top stars. Of course with those outlets, you won't get earth-shattering journalism, but you don't get trash either, and as you saw with People's coverage of David, you do get good stuff from, and about, your favorite star.
Cooked by Cook
Aug 4 2008, 09:48 AM
QUOTE (zoo @ Aug 4 2008, 10:39 AM)

So very true.
My mom used to have a suscription of the National Enquirer. To her, it was the gospel truth.
Jeannine
Many that do believe this are probably casual DC fans, or not fans at all. Us die hard fans have witnessed how respectful DC is towards his fans.
QUOTE (Scott @ Aug 4 2008, 10:42 AM)

Yes, and even with the horrible year in the news Britney has had, her CD came out during it all and was a smash hit!!!!
You have no idea how that whole scenario has irrited me.
As for tone and context, these tabloids love to change something to weave their web of intrigue. I love it when they say "someone close to them said...". They can get away with a lot of stuff that way. Frankly, they should be ashamed, but the public should be even more so by purchasing the trash they put out.
Jeannine
cuisinier
Aug 4 2008, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (*TheLastRockette* @ Aug 4 2008, 10:35 AM)

His words seem pretty innocent, as usual the magazine have beef'd it out and made it something bigger!
Exactly. To me, if anything, his quote is saying that he thinks it's odd that people introduce themselves to him as "cougars." But I get the impression that he appreciates
all of his fans.
padjara
Aug 4 2008, 09:59 AM
Isn't this the same magazine that a while back had a headline along the lines of- Fear of Death Helped David Win American Idol? They took a quote about his blood pressure and turned it into something completely different. It seems this magazine just likes to create drama.
Ah, found that article. Here's a link for those interested.
okmag
Scott
Aug 4 2008, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (padjara @ Aug 4 2008, 10:59 AM)

Isn't this the same magazine that a while back had a headline along the lines of- Fear of Death Helped David Win American Idol? They took a quote about his blood pressure and turned it into something completely different. It seems this magazine just likes to create drama.
Well, there ya go! I rest my case... to the jury it goes!!! (You all better dismiss the charges. Were there any charges? I suppose there were a few perplexed or upset replies on this thread).
Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (Scott @ Aug 4 2008, 02:01 PM)

Well, there ya go! I rest my case... to the jury it goes!!! (You all better dismiss the charges. Were there any charges? I suppose there were a few perplexed or upset replies on this thread).
Oh yes! I remember that one quite well! In fact, it irritated me to be honest. I agree send this one to the jury!
MellyBelly
Aug 4 2008, 10:15 AM
QUOTE (cuisinier @ Aug 4 2008, 01:51 PM)

Exactly. To me, if anything, his quote is saying that he thinks it's odd that people introduce themselves to him as "cougars." But I get the impression that he appreciates
all of his fans.

I agree. I'm sure he's nothing but appreciative to all of the people that have helped to get him to where he is today.
barbwyre
Aug 4 2008, 10:24 AM
I get the impression that DC appreciates all fans, regardless of age, gender, etc.
I'm sure there have probably been a few "cougars" that might have been a little pushy or weird at times, which would be unnerving. I don't want to know what A FEW older women might have said or mailed or given to him.
Just a case of a tabloid trying to stir up a non-existant story. They're just waiting for him to start dating Angelina Jolie or check into Betty Ford or get involved with the Olson twins...
Off the chain
Aug 4 2008, 10:40 AM
Tbh, seems like I recall an interview where he did say the part in quotes. I'm trying to dredge my memory of who he was talking to. Anyhoo, if it is when I remember, he was saying it in an "Aw shucks I don't know what to make of all this" sort of way.
Remember, he did that hilarious spoof skit on VH1 Best Week Ever about liking Susan Sarandon in Bull Durham (aka an older woman).
Depending on how OK counts, he asked out KC the end of May, so only 2 months. But there were rumors they had begun to see each other or chat up "before" the public chivalry caught live on air.
Of course, Rupert Murdoch is the death knell of all that is legit media so regardless, OK needs to spin things to give it an edge (or just make it up) to sell.
Jenney
Aug 4 2008, 10:59 AM
Wow, David's just not providing any fodder for the tabloids, is he? They're really reaching.
A "new" fan base of moms, huh? LOL! I was a mom when I was 21!!!!
tracig
Aug 4 2008, 11:38 AM
I initially posted this article from OK! Magazine because, like the rest of you, I thought old stuff was being re-hashed and I wondered whether he was actually quoted correctly. I agree that OK! Magazine is comparable to tabloid trash. Unfortunately, the article has now been "picked up" by an MTV web site --
http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/2008/08/01/re...real-mamas-boy/ Read the first entry. Too bad ....
RBRB
Aug 4 2008, 11:53 AM
"I'm just like, 'Uhhh. OK!" It "really" sounds like David!! LOL
Yea right... Trashy tabloids!
Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 12:03 PM
QUOTE (RBRB @ Aug 4 2008, 03:53 PM)

"I'm just like, 'Uhhh. OK!" It "really" sounds like David!! LOL
Yea right... Trashy tabloids!
Yep, and MTV was stupid enough to buy into it. lol
MomOfTwo
Aug 4 2008, 12:06 PM
Honestly, I think it's the word "Cougar" that is unerving to him, not older women or moms. There is a certain eat-you-up-alive conotation to it in my opinion. I just listened to another, older interview and he just says he really doesn't know what to make of all the "Cougars for Cook" thing, but if they like the music, then that's fine. I think it's about the phrasing. If I ever met him, I would never introduce myself like that. JMO, but to me it's a very negative word. I would never consider myself that at all and I'm 16 years older. I'm a kind of good girl type and not a predator.
Jessica
PicChick
Aug 4 2008, 12:58 PM
I am surprised that the tabloids didn't say the only reason Cook won Idol is because Archuleta's fans were young and it was a school night. They all had to go to bed and couldn't vote.
HA
Ifyoucan'ttaketheheat
Aug 4 2008, 02:18 PM
QUOTE (MomOfTwo @ Aug 4 2008, 04:06 PM)

Honestly, I think it's the word "Cougar" that is unerving to him, not older women or moms. There is a certain eat-you-up-alive conotation to it in my opinion. I just listened to another, older interview and he just says he really doesn't know what to make of all the "Cougars for Cook" thing, but if they like the music, then that's fine. I think it's about the phrasing. If I ever met him, I would never introduce myself like that. JMO, but to me it's a very negative word. I would never consider myself that at all and I'm 16 years older. I'm a kind of good girl type and not a predator.
Jessica
That is exactly what I think. The word "cougar" is such an "aggressive" word, that I would think it would make him feel like a piece of meat. When you multiply that by the number of self-professed cougars out there, personally, I would be more surprised if it did not make him feel uncomfortable.
Mely
Aug 4 2008, 02:26 PM
I don't think that's true!
He's such a gentleman... He'd never say that to the media! He's a nice guy with modals and respect for his fans (all ages)
AkronlovesCook
Aug 4 2008, 02:29 PM
OK! is a rag mag. They can't even get the year right for Kim Caldwell. They say she's season one...um hello....she was season 2! I think she's fairly forgettable as a singer, but at least I know which season she was on!
So with that little gem of research obviously wrong..you can just trash the rest of the article.
I dont watch TMZ, Access Hollywood, The Insider...any of that garbage. I also don't buy any rag mags. There are only 3 sources that I call reliable:People Magazine, Entertainment Weekly and Entertainment tonight.
My opinion on this garbage...in general that is...is that if we as a society buy this stuff or watch it on tv, we are signing the paychecks of the stalk-a-razzie to continue doing what they do. If people weren't interested in this stuff, there wouldn't be a market for it!
ooo...that turned into a rant! sorry!
WordNerd22939
Aug 4 2008, 03:52 PM
Did anyone else see the E News Blue Carpet of the Teen Choice Awards? Chase Crawford was interviewed about "cougars", and doesn't seem like he has an issue with it (not that I believe David would either). . . thought it kind of goes along with the discussion. Isn't Chase a cutie?
Tina
Picture of Chase from the Blue Carpet . . .
Click to view attachmentEarlier facial comparisons of Chase and David . . .
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Pam08
Aug 4 2008, 03:54 PM
QUOTE (WordNerd22939 @ Aug 4 2008, 07:52 PM)

Did anyone else see the E News Blue Carpet of the Teen Choice Awards? Chase Crawford was interviewed about "cougars", and doesn't seem like he has an issue with it (not that I believe David would either). . . thought it kind of goes along with the discussion. Isn't Chase a cutie?
Tina
Picture of Chase from the Blue Carpet . . .
Click to view attachmentEarlier facial comparisons of Chase and David . . .
Click to view attachmentTina
Oh wow! That's interesting.
marlowe
Aug 4 2008, 03:59 PM
QUOTE (Grandmajoyce @ Aug 4 2008, 12:35 PM)

Not every older fan is a "preying cougar". I don't want to "jump" him, I just want to enjoy his music and his caring soul.
amen sista! i love how you say it, "caring soul". grandmajoyce, those two words sum him dont they?
also, i think/know they took what he said out of context. he is saying he is uncomfortable with all the attention, which he not used to. i heard him say that in an interview a longgggg time ago. they are twisting his words...
gracies_nana
Aug 4 2008, 04:37 PM
I don't agree with the article. That doesn's sound like anything David would say about his fans. He's always had good things to say about the more "mature" women who are avid fans. He loves his fans young and old(er) and you can see that in every concert that he does.
As far as his relationship with Kim goes, that's nobody's business but his and he wants to keep it private. Can you blame him?
Scott
Aug 4 2008, 04:43 PM
QUOTE (MomOfTwo @ Aug 4 2008, 01:06 PM)

Honestly, I think it's the word "Cougar" that is unerving to him, not older women or moms. There is a certain eat-you-up-alive conotation to it in my opinion. I just listened to another, older interview and he just says he really doesn't know what to make of all the "Cougars for Cook" thing, but if they like the music, then that's fine. I think it's about the phrasing. If I ever met him, I would never introduce myself like that. JMO, but to me it's a very negative word. I would never consider myself that at all and I'm 16 years older. I'm a kind of good girl type and not a predator.
Jessica
Yes, remember, cougar doesn't just mean "older woman" or "a woman of a certain age." It means an older woman who likes younger men sexually. Sort of what older men have done for years with their "trophy wives" and "trophy dates," there's no stigma in today's society for older women to do the same with younger men. So I agree the term cougar is an aggressive one, not just an "I think younger guys are cute" sort of thing. But I still think if it was said that way, it was done light heartedly, tongue in cheek, as others have suggested. Like I said, we've seen ample evidence that David is really cool with all his fans... as long as they don't cross the line into creepiness.
li'lsparrow
Aug 4 2008, 04:53 PM
I think you guys are making too big of a deal about this. Nobody is suggesting that only cougars like David Cook or that they are the only reason that he won. I saw far worse stuff printed in mainstream sources (including the AP) that suggested as much right after he won, and this is nothing close to that.
Anyway, it's a tabloid. It will get much worse, trust me. We're lucky that the worst thing they can say right now is that moms love him.
Oh, and not all moms are 40-year-old women, either. When my parents were Cook's age, I was 2: I am 28 now and most of my friends and people my age have small children. Remember the woman on the KIIS interview who said she was teaching her 5-year-old son how to play guitar because of Cookie? She was very young: definitely not a cougar and I doubt she was as old as David. He probably has a lot of those types of fans.
dcfanforever
Aug 5 2008, 07:05 AM
QUOTE (padjara @ Aug 4 2008, 10:59 AM)

Isn't this the same magazine that a while back had a headline along the lines of- Fear of Death Helped David Win American Idol? They took a quote about his blood pressure and turned it into something completely different. It seems this magazine just likes to create drama.
Ah, found that article. Here's a link for those interested.
okmagI remember that article...thought they blew things way out of proportion to create a story.
QUOTE (MomOfTwo @ Aug 4 2008, 01:06 PM)

Honestly, I think it's the word "Cougar" that is unerving to him, not older women or moms. There is a certain eat-you-up-alive conotation to it in my opinion. I just listened to another, older interview and he just says he really doesn't know what to make of all the "Cougars for Cook" thing, but if they like the music, then that's fine. I think it's about the phrasing. If I ever met him, I would never introduce myself like that. JMO, but to me it's a very negative word. I would never consider myself that at all and I'm 16 years older. I'm a kind of good girl type and not a predator.
Jessica
Agree..it is the negative connotation of word that is a problem.. I am older fan also, but would never consider myself a cougar!!
Jenney
Aug 5 2008, 12:06 PM
QUOTE (li'lsparrow @ Aug 4 2008, 06:53 PM)

Oh, and not all moms are 40-year-old women, either. When my parents were Cook's age, I was 2: I am 28 now and most of my friends and people my age have small children. Remember the woman on the KIIS interview who said she was teaching her 5-year-old son how to play guitar because of Cookie? She was very young: definitely not a cougar and I doubt she was as old as David. He probably has a lot of those types of fans.
Yeah, I said the same thing earlier in this thread. When I was David's age I had a 4 year old son!
Since a "mom" can be anyone from her teens on up (grandmas and great grandmas are still moms too), I thought it was kind of silly to talk about David's fans being "moms". Do they think only childless women can be music fans?
QUOTE (dcfanforever @ Aug 5 2008, 08:05 AM)

...Agree..it is the negative connotation of word that is a problem.. I am older fan also, but would never consider myself a cougar!!
Thank goodness....and here I thought I was the only one.
Jeannine
Jenney
Aug 5 2008, 12:24 PM
QUOTE

...Agree..it is the negative connotation of word that is a problem.. I am older fan also, but would never consider myself a cougar!!
QUOTE (zoo @ Aug 5 2008, 02:11 PM)

Thank goodness....and here I thought I was the only one.
Jeannine
Definitely not! We have a whole thread here, the Rockin' Grandmas, for older women who love David's music, but don't think of themselves as "cougars", at least not where he is concerned.
I pointed out once on another thread that I'd be a "cougar" if I were dating a 40 year old man, LOL!!!! And if I weren't already happily married I'd consider dating a man in his 40's if I met someone that age and we hit it off.
I have nothing against older women and younger men, it can work out just fine! Older men have relationships with younger women without anyone thinking it's "weird". Should go both ways!
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