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SourceNRG
QUOTE (ItsMyTime @ Sep 7 2009, 08:30 PM) *
I'm catchin' up on my tweets... just got this one!

KrisAllen4Real: Headed to philly to work with @alex_band. Should be a good day. At some point in life I will find time for sleeping.

Y'all know that David's former bass player, Joey Clement, is with Alex Band (part-time when he's not playing for Selena Gomez). I never heard of Alex Band before Joey and now Kris is working with him?! Assuming it's for Kris's upcoming CD. I wonder if Joey will be on it??? What a small (music) world. tongue.gif


Yeah, that is kinda wierd, isn't it?? I had never heard of him either, and now he's everywhere?!? blink.gif unsure.gif

I don't even know what kind of music he plays! LOL!!

Sharon
19COOKilicious86
QUOTE (ItsMyTime @ Sep 7 2009, 08:30 PM) *
I'm catchin' up on my tweets... just got this one!

KrisAllen4Real: Headed to philly to work with @alex_band. Should be a good day. At some point in life I will find time for sleeping.

Y'all know that David's former bass player, Joey Clement, is with Alex Band (part-time when he's not playing for Selena Gomez). I never heard of Alex Band before Joey and now Kris is working with him?! Assuming it's for Kris's upcoming CD. I wonder if Joey will be on it??? What a small (music) world. tongue.gif


I do remember David saying to Kris and Adam at the finale or around there, that they should find time to sleep. That was one piece of advice that he did give them...try to get some sleep.
Cook forever
Hey guys!! okay so the wait to hear his single is finally over! Its called "Live Like Were Dying" and its really good...heres a snippet of it for those of you who want to hear it...
Single Sample

what do you think of it?
19COOKilicious86
It sounds pretty good. I, of course, would like to hear more, but it sounds good so far.
zoo
I listened to the entire single today several times and tried like heck to like it. I didn't succeed. I really don't care for it at all. If this is representative of his upcoming CD, I won't be purchasing it after all. sad.gif

Jeannine
SourceNRG
uh-oh!!---upon listening to this snippet, I do NOT like it!! sad.gif

The whole time I was thinking.."what happened to Kris Allen? where did he go??". I am just NOT hearing the folksie/acoustic/soulful singer I heard on Idol/singing "Heartless", etc etc. Instead I heard an overproduced, barely recognizable Kris, in a song that does NOT seem like his style at all. All I could think of was Clive Davis, but I know he isn't involved, or is he?!? smile.gif

Sharon
zoo
QUOTE (SourceNRG @ Sep 23 2009, 07:08 PM) *
uh-oh!!---upon listening to this snippet, I do NOT like it!! sad.gif

The whole time I was thinking.."what happened to Kris Allen? where did he go??". I am just NOT hearing the folksie/acoustic/soulful singer I heard on Idol/singing "Heartless", etc etc. Instead I heard an overproduced, barely recognizable Kris, in a song that does NOT seem like his style at all. All I could think of was Clive Davis, but I know he isn't involved, or is he?!? smile.gif

Sharon


I don't think that it is Clive Davis. I think it is just that they are trying to make Kris fit in some sort of genre that they consider current. Or maybe that is the sound he wants to have. Either way, it is not my cup of tea. I agree that I really liked the sound of what he portrayed on the show. However, David's sound now differs with what he did on the show. I just happen to enjoy listening to that sound and don't care for the direction Kris is apparently going.

Jeannine
19COOKilicious86
I actually didn't mind the song. I have to look at the lyrics, because I couldn't hear all the words (he sings parts of it to darn fast). Grant it I've only heard it once, but I liked it...not as much as David's songs, but I liked it. They had him on the radio and then they premiere it. I believe he wrote it or co-wrote it.

Am I going to buy his album the day it comes out, like I did with David? Probably not, but I will go to Itunes and listen to all the clips of his songs to see how it sounds and if it's worth buying, or just buying a couple of the tracks right there on Itunes. However, I can tell you that I would buy a Kris Allen album over Adam Lambert's any day of the week!
Cook forever
its a good song, but i prefer the original by the scipt. i still cant wait for his album!
SourceNRG
QUOTE (Cook forever @ Sep 24 2009, 03:15 PM) *
its a good song, but i prefer the original by the scipt. i still cant wait for his album!


so wait--are you saying that this song is a cover??

Thanks!
Sharon
Cook forever
^ i assume it was, since i heard the scripts version like months ago...he might have had rights to the song i dnt know..
heres the original:
The Script's Version

reinharv
QUOTE (19COOKilicious86 @ Sep 24 2009, 03:02 PM) *
I actually didn't mind the song. I have to look at the lyrics, because I couldn't hear all the words (he sings parts of it to darn fast). Grant it I've only heard it once, but I liked it...not as much as David's songs, but I liked it. They had him on the radio and then they premiere it. I believe he wrote it or co-wrote it.

Am I going to buy his album the day it comes out, like I did with David? Probably not, but I will go to Itunes and listen to all the clips of his songs to see how it sounds and if it's worth buying, or just buying a couple of the tracks right there on Itunes. However, I can tell you that I would buy a Kris Allen album over Adam Lambert's any day of the week!


See this is how I feel--it's isn't the Kris I really liked - putting soul into "Heartless" where Kayne totally lacked that (among other things). I felt he sings parts of it too darn fast. I left a comment on YouTube about it & was attacked. I felt "rushed" listening to it like there was a marathon going on & I couldn't understand some of the words too. It's not the Kris I saw on A.I., which though he isn't what I consider a superstar by any means, he had this folksy soulful kind of vibe & I don't hear that on this song. I know it's not fair to judge the whole album based on this song. He did not write or co-write this song. It's kind of like Bar-Ba-Sol, where it was another band's song, but they never did anything much with it so David took it and re-worked it.

Will I go buy his album the day it comes out. No, maybe a song or two after awhile. I rarely buy the whole album anymore (except for Cook's) because sure as hell I'll land up liking only a couple of songs on it anyway & that's about it & wasted my money.

I also would not even consider buying Adam Lambert's anything simply because I never liked anything he did on A.I., disliked the pimping but mostly feel he is too Broadway/Vegas & was an "actor" on A.I. not a real artist. I liked one song (the slow song he did with his Elvis look & outfit) but it too sounded karaoke & just like the original.

Though David's A.I. performances showed us the kind of talent he really has, how he can take a song & truly make it his own, his album didn't stray from that. It wasn't 100% like what he did prior to A.I., but that's not a bad thing either. Progression is what it's all about. I look at it this way, David's debut album did not disappoint me at all. I loved it. Take Archie--he sang these old-fashioned ballads week after week after week & never showed us what kind of artist he really is because he followed the tried & true formula which he thought would make him win (diva kind of stuff i.e. power "mature" ballads). He attempts to do a younger more today album & it turns out he is a one-hit wonder with "Crush." His album is nothing like what he did on A.I. Anything he did on A.I. attempting to be more upbeat & youthful was terrible in my opinion. However, "Crush" is paying his bills & is even allowing him the opportunity to put out a Christmas Album & another sophomore album. Go figure?

It's like it always is--the label decides what you are going to put on your album. Sure you can say the artist had some say, but let's face it--that's a pile of crap. The label wins (ala Kelly Clarkson). There really isn't, I guess, a huge market for the artsy/fartsy type of singer so Jive is going for Top 40 with this single. Let's face it there are tons of songs on Top 40 that you wonder how the heck these performers ever got a record label to back them.
zoo
QUOTE (reinharv @ Sep 25 2009, 09:18 AM) *
...It's like it always is--the label decides what you are going to put on your album. Sure you can say the artist had some say, but let's face it--that's a pile of crap. The label wins (ala Kelly Clarkson). There really isn't, I guess, a huge market for the artsy/fartsy type of singer so Jive is going for Top 40 with this single. Let's face it there are tons of songs on Top 40 that you wonder how the heck these performers ever got a record label to back them.


That is probably the reason I don't care for it. I'm just not a big fan of Top 40 music as it stands at the moment. It will be interesting to see what else he does. I agree that I liked the vibe of the performances Kris did on AI and I'm just not feeling that in the single. Time will tell what direction his other work takes him. I wish him well.

Jeannine
reinharv
QUOTE (zoo @ Sep 26 2009, 07:16 PM) *
That is probably the reason I don't care for it. I'm just not a big fan of Top 40 music as it stands at the moment. It will be interesting to see what else he does. I agree that I liked the vibe of the performances Kris did on AI and I'm just not feeling that in the single. Time will tell what direction his other work takes him. I wish him well.

Jeannine


I think he'll do fine because Jive will market him just like they did Jordin - slow & steady. It helps to have the tag "American Idol Winner."
Penguin Lover
ohmy.gif no one posted in here for two months. anyway album has been officially leaked and i have to say this is right up there with DCTR. Standout track for me is I Need To Know. Its just plain awesome.
zoo
I think it is a good CD. I have to laugh at the fact that what I feel to be the weakest song on the CD is the first single.

Jeannine
womannextdoor
I just got to say that I really feel sorry for Kris. He shouldn't be thrown under the bus like he is. He's not getting promoted like the winner should be. You would think he came in 4th or 5th. He has the lowest 1st week showing for any idol. Before him it was Jordin. Voting on American idol doesn't matter anymore. If the majority votes for the winner but the runner up gets all the hype and promotion, than whats the point? I will probably watch AI still somewhat but won't be voting anymore because it doesn't matter. I'm not a big fan of Kris like I am David's but still right is right and wrong is wrong.
DC5990
Maybe the AI people are just mad that the one they hyped didn't win. I've listened to a number of songs on Kris's CD and they're all really good, yet you wouldn't even know he was the winner for the promotion he's getting. There really is no point in a winner then, if that's how it's going to be. I remember when I heard he was only presenting an award at the AMAs, but Adam was performing, I thought 'well that's a slap in the face.' At least let the actual winner get a chance to perform. After last season I'm not even sure I want to watch AI anymore. I may only do so if I hear Kris or David will be performing on a results show.
19COOKilicious86
Yea why in the world did Adam perform on the AMA's and Kris didn't? Why didn't David perform on the AMA's? Maybe he had something going on, but still, they could've gone live satellite to his show...hell they did for Taylor Swift over in England or wherever she was across seas. I do have to say I haven't listened to Kris's album yet...I just really haven't gotten around to it...been busy. The AI people could've easily said and picked Adam to win over Kris if they wanted to...hell they probably picked Taylor Hicks to win in season 5. I'll still watch AI, because I love Ellen and I want to see how she's going to do. Not sure if I'll vote, but it all depends on who the contestants are and if I like what I hear. I will say that when the do AI Gives Back, they better not let Adam come and perform, because that will ruin the entire show! I hope they both let David and Kris come to AI Gives Back...I know David said in a few interviews that he would love to do AI Gives Back. Well I hope that Kris, one day, gets what he deserves for being the AI winner.
zoo
This poor thread hasn't seen the light of day for a while, but I decided to comment on it because I finally got to see the guy perform last night in Temecula, CA at Pechangas Casino.

It seemed to take me forever to get to see Kris and his band. When they played here a few months ago in San Diego at Anthology, I was thrilled at the news....until I realized that I had very expensive tickets to see Elton John nearby with my daughter and there was no way I could not go to that without having the family disown me.

I had two reasons for wanting to see Kris perform. The first one was obvious.....because I think he is really good and I like his CD very much. The second reason was because my husband and I have known his bass player for several years and I wanted very much to see him perform with this band.

We had very good seats on the side. As it turns out, it was the side that Chris Torres plays on, so I was pleased. The people in the very front row were allowed to stand at the barrier at the stage. I was in the second row and the security guard was nice enough to let me also come up and stand over at the side. It turned out great. Torres saw me as soon as he came out and I was happy that he knew we had come to the show.

Well, what can I say? Kris Allen rocked that house! That guy is full of positive energy and knows how to use it. Great, great vocals and stage presence. I really can't say enough. I would gladly go see him again and hope he comes back my way soon.

I accidentally ran into Chris Torres after their set and it was great catching up. He said he loves this band and has had a great time touring. He has great respect for Kris and I feel Kris is extremely lucky to have him as his bass player. Chris also has his own band called The Grass Heat. Check them out. Funky and uber talented group of guys.

Guess that's it. If you haven't seen Kris Allen yet, go see him. I truly feel that guy well earned that winner's title. He is an excellent performer and musician.


Jeannine
zoo
Bumping this thread back up to the light because I attended the secret show at The Viper Room late last night. Boy, what a show!! Totally worth the loss of sleep. If you have never seen Kris and his band live, you should do so. They are fabulous.


Jeannine
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