Absolutely! Couldn't believe that cape and the obvious pimpage all season has really annoyed me. I completely broke my promise to myself that I wouldn't vote this year, but Kris has grown on me all season and he's definitely my favorite. He's genuine and talented and I can't wait to buy his CD! Voted probably 20 times on Tuesday night - haven't done that all season - LOL! I enjoyed the homecoming shots too - we've visited Little Rock a couple times and have been in that amphitheater...

Adam, on the other hand to me, has been acting the part of rock star all season - doesn't feel genuine to me at all. He's a performer, for sure, but I can't see myself buying his CD when I wouldn't be seeing him. He's a cooler version of Taylor Hicks to me.

But, I'm with you - the highlight of next week will be David's return for the finale. He's MY American Idol!

I usually like Katy Perry's performances, but when she came out with the cape, I put my ipod on and started listening to David Cook. (I like the song she sang too, but after listening to a little part of it, I couldn't do it). I wasn't going to vote either, but on Tuesday (after reading a bit on this forum and a poster saying we needed a Danny/Kris finale, which I agreed with) I started voting for Kris and I will vote for him next week. He's talented enough to win it and I want to see the biggest upset to American Idol ever. Kris is an artist I can see myself listening to. If I listened to Adam's CD I would probably have a headache by the time it was over.

Kris is genuine and humble and has remained that way throughout the competition, even when it's clear that the judges really couldn't care if he succeeds. At least that's the impression I get from one or two of them. I feel bad that Danny went home, he did amazingly on Tuesday (even with that song Paula picked for him). I wonder where all his votes are going to go.

I hope David comes back for the finale! That's the only thing that'll make me sit and watch it.

That Katy Perry stunt REALLY ticked me off. I've been posting this all over the place where people are talking about it, and here's what I think: It's one thing if you're a fan of the show, you go on some talk show and they ask you about your favorites, and you answer it. That's, you know, whatever. But to be a GUEST on the show and endorse someone that publicly, that's just unfair. I'd be ticked off even if there hadn't been a disgusting amount of Adam pimping this whole season, but add the Katy Perry cape to the judges drooling over him, SIMON telling people to vote for him, and him being the golden boy though he's not the most talented person there, and I just couldn't handle it. Stunts like that just shouldn't be allowed to fly.

I'm just really, really ticked off with the judges. You know, they have picked "favorites" before, but I can't remember ANY contestant that's barely ever gotten any bit of a bad critique. The worst thing I can remember them saying about Adam is that it wasn't as good as last week, or Simon's comment about Ring of Fire. Ugh.

Even last season, it seemed like Archie was the favorite, and finale week it definitely seemed like he was going to win, but at least during the season he got some negative comments when he didn't do that great. I swear, Adam couldn't go wrong if he dressed up like Tina Turner and screeched out 'Mary Had A Little Lamb'

Anyway. Sorry for the little mini-rant. I don't deny he's talented, he's just not as amazing as everyone says. And I'm sick of the pimping. I'm hoping for Kris to win, not only because he's my favorite (he was tied with Danny, but now obviously he's the only one left) but because I want to stick it to the judges that all the pimping in the world can't ensure that who you want to win will win.

Alright, I'm actually done now, I promise.

Yea that upset me to. I've loved Adam all season. At first when it seemed like Kris was just cannon fodder he was my favorite.. Mostly because I saw the vids of him from Wicked. I'll be honest I'll never stop watching AI because I always get attached to the contestants, but I HATE the producers. I don't like feeling manipulated. I think that, unless Idol makes some SERIOUS changes, then it's screwed. And I don't just mean adding a fourth judge. I mean like a complete and total makeover.

I just wanted to add that what often draws me to a performer/actor/artist is his or her personality and character as a human being. Nothing against Adam, but there is something really sweet about Kris and his relationship with his family. His homecoming really got to me and made me say that he had to win just because he seems like such a kind person with all this amazing talent. That is a really great combination for me. Again, not to say that Adan is not like that. I just see it coming through with Kris. I like that he is humble and genuinely shocked and delighted that he is where he is. Am I wrong, or did he not get much attention in the audition and Hollywood epeisodes of the show? For some reason, I felt like he came out of nowhere. Then again, I really didn't pay much attention to the show early on. I just remember saying when he made it through that first week, "Where did he come from?" Anyway, he and Adam were very close in votes last week, so I am very hopeful that there is a realistic chance that he will win this. I love an underdog!
Jessica

You're right, MomOfTwo, he didn't get a lot of attention during the auditions and Hollywood week. I had the same reaction when he first performed for the Top 36. I was like "who is he?" but I liked his performance and was happy he made it through. I really hope he wins. Adam has been in the business for years and could have seriously made it by now, but Kris just keeps proving that he deserves it by throwing out these performances where he changes the songs up and makes them fit him. He really comes off as a humble person who can't believe where he's ended up.

Root for the underdog!

The show didn't air here yet!
What did he sing?
What did the judges say?

An incredible version of "Ain't No Sunshine." I loved it the first time but this was WAYYYYYYYYYY better. That was his song choice from the past weeks. Next the producer picked a lame "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye. Kris did a good job with a song that there wasn't much to do with. The last song was Kara's coronation song and it was a terrible song but Kris definitely outsang Adam and I don't say that just because I prefer Kris. It was just all wrong for Adam.

Anyway, the first song for both of them was the best. The night just went down from there.

Hope Kris pulls off the upset. dialidol has him ahead of Adam, but with their signature "too close to call" caveat.

^^
Thanks

AAH!!
Kris won! Kris won!
YEAH!!

YAY FOR KRIS!!

I just downloaded the studio version of "Apologize" (while waiting for "Permanent" to show up), and it's GREAT.

OT Has Permanent showen up yet I can't find it?!

Congratulations Kris! That was seriously the biggest shock ever on Idol.

YAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm soo happy for Kris. I think this is the best possible scenario for both him and Adam. I think Adam's KISS performance was the most genuine one he's done on this season considering all of his highly provocative performances before Idol. Obviously that's probably not what Idol want in Adam, and they'd probably try to have major control over him. This way he can be himself more without having to be supper family friendly for the fans. And Kris just plain deserves it. He was put in as cannon fodder and he fought his way to the top. I'm so proud of him!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


KRIS WON?!?!?!?!?!?!?


I'm still STUNNED!



That was "KICK AWESOME"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



YAY FOR KRIS!!!

KRIS WON AND I'M SO FREAKING EXCITED!!!



I will be smiling for weeks to come.

Has 'Permanent' shown up for anybody yet? I've been checking but it's not up yet... and I am impatient for my Cook video fix... lol.

I'm excited for him too, but I also hate how people are asking "did the right guy win?" I was watching a morning show and one of the hosts said, "Adam will probably outsell Kris." Disrespectful? I think so.

Teralynne, check the official discussion page for Permanent, there's an explanation for why it's not up yet (or maybe it has been put up since). Apparently the Idol studio hasn't released it yet, so itunes can't put it up.

Kudos for Kris. I am angry at the disrespect Simon showed Kris. Didn't even get out of his seat, just sat there with a stunned look on his face.

^^

Really? I didn't notice.
I was too busy screaming and jumping up and down lol.
I'm gonna go and check that out again.

I didn't notice Simon sitting at first either, I missed about half Kris's final performance because I was screaming (and my mom's friend called to find out if I was happy Kris won). But, I'll give Simon something, if you look when Kris goes onto the platform to sing, Simon does shake his hand.

And I found the "No Boundaries" studio version on youtube, it's actually pretty good. It sounds like Kris got to tweak it a bit.

simon did stand up but he stood right back down two seconds later (you can't really see it as the shot is taken from behind).
so happy for kris but i hate all the hate thats going on the boards (esepcially myidol). its really annoying. why can't some people be happy for the person who won aargh....
the no boundaries is really good. anyone that can make that song sound good has great talent in my book.
sorry if i sound spacey now but i've gotten like no sleep for the past couple of nights....

I'm thrilled that Kris won and I am also disappointed as others have stated that he is now going to be questioned as if this is fair. It's not his fault. Hopefully both he and Adam will both be successful. They are two totally different performers with huge talent. I really actualy liked Adam for the first time last night.

On GMA this morning Sam said something to the effect did America get it wrong. Robin was quick to say that Kris has so much talent and they love him but it was a surprise. Chris added that it is such an American thing to root for the underdog and that could have been what happened.

Anyway, so many from this show are working in music and other aspects of entertainment and good for them! It's great to win and also just to have done well. I hope they both do well. Not as well as David, but... It reminds me of Michael Johns saying to David that he wishes him as career that is only slightly less successful than his own. It's how I kind of feel about this situation!
Jessica

I agree with what you sadi about Adam being able to be himself more, and not having to be family friendly. I think it is actually better for him to NOT have won the title.

And I think it will be better for Kris' career TO have won the title..so I think all in all it will probably be better for both the way it did turn out. Will be interesting to watch both of their careers and see what happens!!!!!

Sharon

I agree... I don't think Adam would thrive in the Idol box. I mean, I still don't believe that the AI people completely control every single thing that the Idols do once they've won, as evidenced by David Cook and his record, but it definitely wouldn't work. In the end, I mean, it's a family show, so.......... he just didn't fit that extremely well. I wish him all the success in the world because he's very talented, and I'm absolutely positive he will succeed, and he didn't need the Idol title for that.

Neither did Kris, but I'm SO GLAD he got it. I am sick of all the hating. There was some poll on MSN yesterday, asking if American made the right decision, and the choices were : Yes, Kris had more talent, and No, Adam got robbed. Come on! Adam didn't get robbed of anything! He's gotten major, major exposure, he's a household name, he gets a record deal and the tour... he's gonna be fine.

And I was really disappointed with Simon... at least all of the other judges put aside their bias and were happy for Kris, but he really was just sitting there looking so shocked.

I just watched Kris on Leno, he is a very good interview. Eloquent, and funny too... considering he had 2 hours sleep!!

Dang it, I missed that interview! I was going to record it and watch it today but my DVR was malfunctioning... guess I will go find it on YouTube.

it should replay next friady morning between 1 am and 3am I think at least it does here in Dallas!

Here's the youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn8sFWeNUoY

Enjoy! I just started watching it... but it sounds good so far!

Just finished watching it, it's really funny. Kris is a funny guy. I especially liked his impression of his wife and the story of how he proposed to her.

Well they did the same when David Cook won too particularly after both released their albums and that didn't turn out to be true. Even after Cook had 11 songs that charted to Archie's 3 and Cook's album being certified platinum in 3 months (shipped in 11 weeks) and Cook is still going strong. I think USA Today gave DCTR 2.5* and DATR 3.5* so we'll just have to tolerate all the haters. They've already started on YouTube and elsewhere.

I liked Kris and Allison. I never liked Adam. I just don't like that kind of music and frankly he was getting boring because it didn't matter what the theme was, nor the song (except for 1 or 2) but all of them were the same and always ending with the loud (off pitch) wail and tongue flailing. I couldn't stand to watch it. He's VEGAS, BROADWAY, CABARET and that isn't meant to put him down--you have to be good to do those venues. Kris is radio friendly, cute, young (but not too young) boy-next-door, and very talented (plays 6 instruments) and that makes him the whole package. Adam has his wail and to me I don't find him good-looking at all but he is talented and he'll do his thing and be successful at it. He's just not my cup of tea. I can listen to a couple of his songs, but too much and it's overkill for me.

I am curious how they will market Adam because Idol doesn't like pure rock - not the kind Adam thinks he is, which is so 1985. They like pop/rock, pop, and country (only because of Carrie). I can see Kris doing stuff like Keith Urban and actually think he's got real potential to crossover in different genres. All he has to do is show up with a guitar and he's good to go (like Cook) but Adam has to have the whole band, stobe lights, dryice/smoke, laser lights and outlandish outfits & make a big entrance for the full "wow" affect. Even Gene Simmons (KISS) said that Adam isn't really a rocker but Broadway and he got attacked for it. I totally agree with him. He didn't mean it as an insult, it's just fact and like I said you have to be good to do Broadway.

I hope the best for Kris but I sure don't want to see all those stupid fanwars going on like they did of Reuben/Clay, Cook/Archie. Reuben & Clay were close in votes as I suspect Adam & Kris so I can see why the fans are upset; however Cook's win was a landslide and they still went after him.

I mean it's a show for god's sake and neither of the people on the show would have gotten the kind of recognition they got if they hadn't been on the show. You can't afford to pay for that kind of publicity. It's like there is not enough room in the world for more than a handful of artists.

Billy Bush interviewed Kris and told him that the vote separtion was huge. I wonder why we haven;t heard the actual number. Last year they said the two Davids were 12 million apart. Bush said his source was near the top of AI, I am assuming.....

We'll probably never know how badly Kris beat Adam because AI producers and judges will look so stupid for calling it for Adam way back in the top 13 or top 11 or whatever. They put him on Entertainment Weekly, Simon told Oprah that Adam would win, etc.

America took the vote back from the producers and judges and I'm proud of America. After all, it's called AMERICAN IDOL not Simon Idol

The haters will say that Kris voters only voted for Kris because we didn't want Adam to win, but so what. Let them say whatever they will because we can't change their minds and they can't change the vote. Kris Allen is the new American Idol and someday the huge margin will be revealed.

Go Kris!!! DC's new little brother

Well Dial idol was so close (with Kris having the edge) that they couldn't call it but they do not count text messages and they only count "busy" signals for people who use their dialing software. I will bet that Kris got tons of text messages because I personally might have gotten 15 to 20 votes in after dialing for 2 hours straight. I don't use dialers either--just my phone. I never saw anything like that. I voted for David Cook last season, 4 hours straight and might have gotten 75 votes in for 4 hours. I bet a lot of people who couldn't get through (and everyone said both their lines were busy) texted their vote. Also, I never voted all season until the finale so there are a lot of people like me. I had Kris pegged a few weeks ago and thought he really progressed and has a lot of talent. Like I said, he plays musical instruments and that goes a long way with me--particularly guitar. He is the "boy-next-door" nice, articulate, talented and soft spoken. When I heard he went around helping people at the beginning that also went a long way with me.

I don't like Adam or his wailing, tongue flailing, and theatrics and that's why I wouldn't vote for him. Can you imagine listening to an album full of that stuff, track after track. Everytime he performed, you already knew what he was going to do and how he was going to end the song. Regardless of the "theme" he did his own thing and all his songs started to blend in. He never followed the theme. He has a good voice but he's all fluff and no substance. He is also 27 and wouldn't catch the tween votes (he's ancient to them) and he didn't play any instruments. A real "rocker" rocks it on his Les Paul!!

I liked Allison and Kris. If none of my picks had made it to the top 2, I wouldn't have voted at all. I have better things to do than vote against Adam.

You see what people don't get is that Adam's fans are very vocal, bloggers, etc. So it gives the impression that he's the favorite and being googled. Yes, I googled him to visit his site and practically threw up.

Am I homophobic? I would have to say that I don't care what you do behind closed doors but surely use some discretion on the internet. I seriously could not believe the pictures of him and his friends and even after seeing those pictures just like everyone else did some of these idiots still were maintaining it's not certain he is gay. Hello!!! You can be gay but you don't have to post those kinds of pictures. He made gay guys look bad. He in essence sterotyped gay men all being the same cross-dresser/queens/over the top/flamboyant-bejeweled draped in feather boas, fake leaves hiding their privates types and they are not. That's the types that are mocked making it very difficult for gay men to be respected with characters like Adam Lambert and his tribe on the internet.


As far as the "Christian" vote goes, I don't buy it. I'm Christian and I just never liked Adam. Religion has nothing to do with this. It's people like me who wait patiently and then vote when it counts for whom I think progressed most and as potential and talent and appeal.

Same here, the religious thing has never played into it for me. I'm a Christian, and I find it cool when contestants are Christian too, but that has never made me like them more. Because religion has nothing to do with talent. I think that's a cop out for people who wanted Adam to win; they'll just say that people voted for Kris because he's a Christian, because Adam's gay, whatever. I personally really don't care if Adam is or not. I think he's talented but I don't think he has any potential for longevity as a solo artist, but Kris does.

Kris Allen was in Virginia Beach last night for the Fray concert!

Cool!

Hey, has anyone on here listened to Kris's pre-Idol album, Brand New Shoes?

Yea I like Kris Allen. I was pretty happy when he won. I was way more excited when DC won, but I absolutely love DC that's why Anywho, I couldn't stand Adam, so when I was watching the finale of AI and Seacrest said that Kris had won, I was like 'Whoa' and gave my mom a couple of high fives. I mean don't get me wrong, Adam can sing, but when he goes high into that whole whiny thing, it drives me nuts.

Religion has nothing to do with it. If religion was a part of it, Adam probably wouldn't have been in the top 36 or voted off really early. I feel it's just what America is feeling at that time. Obviously they were feeling Kris this year. I think people also like when someone can play an instrument and seeing how Kris plays guitar and looks like a little bit of the piano, it may have gotten him a few extra votes...I don't know for sure entirely; just look at the last two winners...David Cook and Kris Allen...both play and played instruments on Idol. Now I know past Idols can play instruments, but those were the first times that you could play one. I think it's a little more humbling and intimate if you can play.

I wish Kris the best of luck and take David's advice on trying to get some rest.

I definitely think that playing an instrument or two puts someone at an advantage. That is probably why they wouldn't allow instruments this year until they got to a certain point. They know darn well that it influences people's ideas about talent. I see those kinds of performers as well rounded and frankly more talented. They kind play around with a tune and change it up and add lyrics to it and they generally write their own music and lyrics. I consider them "artists" in the true sense of the word. Add a good voice to that and it's an added bonus. Not all successful singers have the greatest vocals though. Heck all I have to do is tune into my local radio station to confirm that, wondering how the heck they ever got a record deal.

No, Kris isn't likely to overtake David Cook in my heart and I think Cook has a better voice than either Kris and definitely Adam, who I feel is too predictable and I couldn't stand the wailing and the theatrics. You can't see theatrics on the radio and that's why a lot of people thought he was good, but a couple of his songs is more than I can take. He's a good cover artist who can take a well-know song and make it more "broadway."

Kris tried different things and all he needed was himself, a guitar, piano and nothing more. Adam relied on the "outfit" makeup and special affects of lighting and the famous "stage" entrance. That kind of stuff just doesn't win me over. I don't care what his orientation is, though I would have cared a little less this year if he wasn't so in-your-face gay and plus the fact that his websites were verging on porn. Sure he has a decent voice, but there are plenty of Adams out there in Vegas and Broadway. I have gone to both and never bought the CD because it misses something in the translation because it's the show more than anything else. I consider myself a Christian and the fact that he was gay would not even have been a thought in my mind whatsoever. There are gay ministers so that argument falls short. If you are talking about some of the more strict sects, well they also have gay people who are also Chrisitan and they follow their religion.

Kris was just a more mellow guy and he tried different things and didn't put out a big Vegas type of performance and I feel that's what gave him the win. I think his "heartless" was better than anything Adam did frankly and Kris shows more genuine emotion when he's performing. Adam is just a showman. In the end, I feel that Kris will do better. Adam is already put out that he is going Glam rock like Lady GaGa and is in fact working with her people and that he will put out an album along the lines of Queen. Okay are we doing retro? Also, I hate Lady GaGa and when she performed on Idol I hated her voice and didn't know how she ever got a record deal too.

^I pretty much agree with everything you said. I think that both Kris and Adam are incredibly talented, but I just could never bring myself to like Adam. I think he's extremely talented and would thrive on Broadway, but as a solo artist, even a frontman for a band? Uh uh. Not seeing it. Like you said (and I said the exact same thing all throughout the season) he relies far too much on the visual. He could never play anything stripped down, just him and one or two instruments. And the gay thing, I couldn't care less. I'm a Christian too, and I think that being gay is sin, but it's their choice, because we've all got free will and can decide to live however we want. I may disagree with his choices, but that doesn't mean I think he's a bad person and I'm certainly not petty enough to not like somebody as an artist because of their sexual orientation, that's just stupid. It was his MUSIC that I didn't like, and that's the entire point.

David Cook will always and forever be MY American Idol. I love him to death and I couldn't love an artist more, but having said that, I was a big Kris fan throughout the season and I was really glad that he won.

The point about the instruments is certainly true.... I really do view them as a complete, rounded artist when they can play an instrument or two. Actually arranging it yourself with just you and your guitar, or piano, makes the connection between the song and the artist so much stronger. I agree about Kris' rendition of Heartless was brilliant, and that was all him.

I just think that of the two of them, Kris is the true artist and musician, whereas Adam is really the true PERFORMER. It's about the performance, not the song or the music; like you guys pointed out, emotionless. Kris put emotion into his music, and that's one of the things I look for in an artist.

I agree with everything you're all saying. Kris and Adam - both talented guys, both very different guys. I actually watched a few performances of Adam when he played Fiyero in Wicked (something that surprised me because I thought he was just an ensemble member, not one of the leads) and I really wish he would've sang on AI like he did in Wicked because it was really good. He didn't do the high, screechy singing, he just sang and it was great. Doing Broadway is where he belongs because the theatrics, the lighting, the outfits all work there.

There's a big difference between artists like Kris and David and Adam. Kris and David can just go out on a stage with an instrument, some simple lighting, wearing whatever and deliver an amazing performance. For instance - Kris singing Heartless, David singing Little Sparrow (don't know why I picked that one, but that was one of the most basic performances that I loved of his), whereas Adam needs the crazy staging and everything. I'm a theatre person, I've performed since I was 10, and I understand how it adds to a performance. But when it's conveyed to a radio, you're not going to see everything. Adam has a good voice and that'll show. But I feel that Kris was more of a musician.

well David had Hello, and Always be my Baby and kis had She works hard for the money and Heartless!

Agreed. David and Kris can get up and do an acoustic set, and everyone would love it, seeing that stripped down side of them (David especially) but Kris needs the lights, the costumes, the fog machines... David uses lighting in his shows, but it enhances the music, and the show would be every bit as great without the lighting. Adam, not so much, he needs the theatrics.

I have heard he was really good in Wicked, I didn't know he had a lead either. I've gotta go check that out now...

TYPO there, Kris versus Adam needs the lights, the costumes, the fog machines. Yes, Adam relies too heavily on that and that's what he's used to. How many times did David Cook have to just show up with his guitar and do an acoustic song? Carnegie Hall, Rockerfellar Center, WalMart ShareHolders, etc., etc. It was just him, no "outfit" now special anything. He didn't need props because it wasn't appropriate. That sort of stage act is Vegas or a solo big huge rock concert like KISS does--it's their schtick, which I don't care for anyway.

When Kris did Heartless I was floored. Beautiful with feeling and passion. You connected to him. I liked one of the songs Adam did (the Tears for Fears cover) but yet again, he had an "outfit" on, slicked his hair back, looked like Elvis, etc. It's distracting to me. He's acting and that's how I saw it. Let's face it, when you go to a Cabaret, Vegas, or Broadway that's part of it. Venues don't always have that stuff to make you look better and make a show of it.

I can't imagine what the Idol Tour will be. I can just see them going out of their way to make a big production for Adam--the big splash the full court. That isn't Kris and since he'll come on last, Adam would have stolen his thunder, not that he's looking for any thunder. I mean when they sang the Queen song, Adam overwhelmed and took over in essence. He doesn't know how to do harmony. You remember David Cook's duet with Carrie Underwood. Neither overwhelmed the other and each took their turn. They matched and they looked good together. Carrie is the bigger star naturally but they worked together so well. It's the same when David did a duet "Hero" with Archie. Though it was obvious the song suited Cook (he made that song) but he did harmony and toned it down when Archie did his thing. They meshed together in that duet. I don't think Adam is capable of toning down and letting someone else be in the spotlight when doing a duet. When he takes his turn, it overwhelms the song and makes the other person look stupid. I think Kris kind of gave up and let Adam take over because there was no point to it.

I will admit that Adam has a decent voice (but not as good as Cook), but he wails and he does it each and every time and it's predictable. I just didn't get into him at all from day 1. I've heard of a few people who said that the didn't like looking at him when he was singing. Strange, but that's how I felt. He did sneers, (somewhat evil looks lol), and that final tongue flailing was something I just couldn't look at. So I don't know, maybe he'll come off better on the radio & CD just because of that. They'll probably go for that on the radio.

Know what I really would like to know and wonder why it was never revealed is HOW MUCH OF A VOTE DIFFERENCE WAS IT BETWEEN KRIS AND ADAM? Why didn't they ever say--that's what I would like to know. Someone said that it was a big difference, and if that's the case it makes me ill that they never said it because it will take away from Adam and it's clear that they are looking at him (RCA) as being the "real" winner sending Kris off to Jive with a mediocre press release whilst raving about Adam and him being the next superstar. I read both of the releases and it was obvious & that made me hopping mad.


I look for all those things in an "artist" the ability to play instruments, connecting to the song, showing emotion and not just performing the song. These "musician/artists" tend to have a longer career. When they no longer sing/perform, they write music/songs for others. These musician/artists connect to the melody and the lyrics because they either composed their own music or they connect with the song better.

Heck when Cook showed up with his Les Paul--I said "Hello..." well he had me at "Hello" anyway. That just added a whole 'nother level didn't it? Okay, I'm obsessed about Cook--no dobut about it and it's been over a year and it's still as strong, if not stronger than ever. God I love Cook.

I like Kris too. He can connect just like Cook.

^ I agree with every single thing you just said. Thanks for fixing my error - I didn't even notice that, I get to typing fast trying to get my thoughts out before they go away and I mess up, but at least everyone knows what I'm talking about.

I also like your point about the true musicians/artists having longer careers, because it's very true. Honestly, the only way I see Adam having a long career is if he goes to Broadway. As a solo artist, I give him a few years, tops.

And yeah, a year and a half later I'm still crazy obsessed with David and listen to him every day and get freaking ecstatic when he's doing shows I can go to. And I'll always be a fan, because he doesn't know how to even be mediocre. And even if he was capable of mediocrity, even his mediocre stuff would still be incredible, because it's David. I'm just so excited for all the years to come of David amazingness.

Well, I knew what you were talking about. Sometimes the fingers are going like crazy and then you look back and see all the spelling mistakes. We need a spell-checker on this site LOL.

When I think of Neil Diamond, this is proof that musicians who love their work and not only can they play musical instruments, they write their songs and then later on they write for others. Neil had the knack of writing relevant songs, of the times, and something that he experienced or was going on at the time. He always connected to his songs and therefore it meant something and that passion and soul came through. He's had an incredible career and is still going. Neil has a unique voice and I remember him saying on A.I. when he was a mentor that DC gave him goosebumps. When Cook performed I’m Alive, which I was familiar with of course, I thought "damm, that's just as good or better than Neil's version" and then when he did All I Really Need is You, which I don't remember at all, that was incredibly moving. It was never a hit for Neil (neither were) but it would have been a hit for Cook. It was fantastic and that is when Neil said Cook gave him goosebumps. I swear Randy Jackson had misty eyes.

This is "artistry" at its best. People who are used to performing on stage like on Broadway/Cabaret, etc., don't have as much leeway to change things. They are in fact "acting" on stage and though having stage experience is a plus to get confidence and it's all flash and sparkles, often these performers come off more as actors than true artists.

So I know that Cook (and probably Kris) realize that this "gig" will end someday, they will always be connected to the music business because they have something else to fall back on. They can write songs & scores & produce. They have an ear for music because they play music.

hey guys! for those of you who dont know..Kris is on twitter for real this time lol Ryan Seacrest confirmed it and its
https://twitter.com/KrisAllen4Real

^^
Oh yeah!
It's real?? Yeaah!

from MJ



Yayz maybe now we'll get something great (*coughlikeBrightLightscough*) in its place .

Hmm, kinda weird, but good. I mean, that song is not the greatest, but it's a little weird that they're not flaunting the winner and his coronation song. I think it should be their choice whether they do it in the show or not (and if they feel like doing it one show but not the next, just give them a little bit of flexibility) Interesting though.

WOW! This is very interesting! I wonder if it is really is because of audience response (or possible lack thereof), OR if it's because it is "hard to sing" as Kris had originally said, and therefore they don't want to make him do this the whole tour..or..??

We may never know the REAL truth..!!

Sharon

Off the subject a little, but you know what I find weird... no more than weird... almost parallel universe-like! Kris's No Boundaries is outselling David's Come Back to Me (WTH!!!) Now CBTM is not my favorite David song (primarily because it's not really a David song, just a David-sung song) but it's a thousand times better than No Boundaries. CBTM has had 6 weeks longer and is trailing it something like 270K to 247K (last week's numbers). How can that be???

I think primarily it's because a lot of people bought DC's entire album or are buying the album rather than the single. There are too many good songs on the album so why peicemeal it, might as well buy the whole lot.

As far as Kris goes, it's probably because he is the American Idol and it's his only single out right now. Adam couldn't even come close to Kris' sales for that song & his airplay and you would think with all the fascination of Adam that they would have bought anything even a crappy song.

I wonder if TPB are going to make him put it on his album. It will probably be a bonus track. Since Kara & company wrote the song, I guess they don't have a committment to her & her collaborators. I mean didn't anyone listen to it before they went all hog wild on that song & made Kris sing it?

I don't think DC wanted magic rainbow on his album, but it did win the A.I. songwriting contest so he probably didn't have any choice; however magic rainbow is so much better and people really like that song or like DC singing that song.

Kris is already singing his replacement song on tour. I can't remember off hand what it is but it's much better.

What a slap in the face to Kara & her people & she's supposed to be some bigtime songwriter, collaborator. I hope she works with Adam on his new album (okay, my feelings are showing aren't they?)