I will post a recap tomorrow, however, I will say that barricade was a first....they never had this before.

Many fans were very disappointed in Cook for not coming out to a hugh crowd after the show. We were told he sat in his bus. Sorry, but everyone came out except Cook and three of the others. Michael Johns was great, as well as Jason who said he is gettiing a lot of Jason Miraz comparisons, Kristy was a doll, and Brooke as well as Archie.

No excuse for Cook...sorry....but he is the star and I can't tell you how many fans were upset. Wasn't Cook the one that said this concert is a hugh thank you to the fans? Well, I didn't see that from him tonight.

I will post my videso to you tube tomorrow.

Scott, just wanted to highlight that so future fans going to the concert won't be disappointed!

Sorry for you that you didn't know... it's common knowledge and this info has been out there (of course word can't make it to everyone)... but Cook will ONLY be doing afternoon meet and greets from here on in. Other fans going to future concerts, please be advised so you're not disappointed and can make afternoon plans!

AND FANFORLIFE, sounds like you are NOT (a fan for life). He has been the most gracious AI winner ever. Got an attitude, take it to another board. IMO, fans like you, with your unreasonable expectations and demands are a big problem.

I will post a recap tomorrow, however, I will say that barricade was a first....they never had this before.

Many fans were very disappointed in Cook for not coming out to a hugh crowd after the show. We were told he sat in his bus. Sorry, but everyone came out except Cook and three of the others. Michael Johns was great, as well as Jason who said he is gettiing a lot of Jason Miraz comparisons, Kristy was a doll, and Brooke as well as Archie.

No excuse for Cook...sorry....but he is the star and I can't tell you how many fans were upset. Wasn't Cook the one that said this concert is a hugh thank you to the fans? Well, I didn't see that from him tonight.

I will post my videso to you tube tomorrow.

fanforlife, I have heard that TPTB will not let Cook greet fans after the show anymore. I guess it became to crazy. He only will meet fans before the show. It is disappointing though. However, it is a way to gain some control. I don't think Cook is the type of guy to willingly sit in a bus and pass up an opportunity to meet his fans.

I will post a recap tomorrow, however, I will say that barricade was a first....they never had this before.

Many fans were very disappointed in Cook for not coming out to a hugh crowd after the show. We were told he sat in his bus. Sorry, but everyone came out except Cook and three of the others. Michael Johns was great, as well as Jason who said he is gettiing a lot of Jason Miraz comparisons, Kristy was a doll, and Brooke as well as Archie.

No excuse for Cook...sorry....but he is the star and I can't tell you how many fans were upset. Wasn't Cook the one that said this concert is a hugh thank you to the fans? Well, I didn't see that from him tonight.
I will post my videso to you tube tomorrow.

Sorry for you that you didn't know... it's common knowledge and this info has been out there (of course word can't make it to everyone)... but Cook will ONLY be doing afternoon meet and greets from here on in. Other fans going to future concerts, please be advised so you're not disappointed and can make afternoon plans!

AND FANFORLIFE, sounds like you are NOT (a fan for life). He has been the most gracious AI winner ever. Got an attitude, take it to another board. IMO, fans like you, with your unreasonable expectations and demands are a big problem.

...I will be at the after party so I'm not that worried, unless Cook decides to take off in his limo again, then I may have to have a word with him.....via email of course. Keep fingers crossed. I've been doing a lot of talking with him about Philly.....I certaintly hope he challenges himself on 8/13. hint, hint,.....backbend...

And considering that this is someone who acted like they had inside info and "talked" to David, it's funny that they wouldn't know that he wouldn't be coming out!

As for Philly security being tight....let me say, they didn't even check bags there! No security at all when you went in. I found it very odd.

And considering that this is someone who acted like they had inside info and "talked" to David, it's funny that they wouldn't know that he wouldn't be coming out!

My thoughts exactly. This is a person who has supposedly been in contact with David via email, and according to them, talking a lot about the upcoming Philly show. So, you would think they would know the whole security problem that has been keeping David from coming out after the shows.

Also, the comment about David just 'sitting on the bus' instead of coming out and talking to the fans was totally not true. David was seen by myself and numerous others playing around on the grass by the fence with a football after the show. He waved to the fans several times.
I'm just glad that those of us who were lucky enough to meet David & the other idols yesterday were not discouraged from trying after ALL the nagative comments that depressed so many of us.

Sorry for you that you didn't know... it's common knowledge and this info has been out there (of course word can't make it to everyone)... but Cook will ONLY be doing afternoon meet and greets from here on in. Other fans going to future concerts, please be advised so you're not disappointed and can make afternoon plans!

AND FANFORLIFE, sounds like you are NOT (a fan for life). He has been the most gracious AI winner ever. Got an attitude, take it to another board. IMO, fans like you, with your unreasonable expectations and demands are a big problem.

First of all.....some of you need to get your facts straight.

I use to work in the music business, I now work in Advertising. I do not email David on a regular basis nor have any conversations with him, however, I do have knowledge that he reads my mail and won't go any further than that. The email that i have is from his personal account from before American Idol.

Secondly, many people even insiders were not aware that David did not come out after the shows. I am not a regular poster on boards and do work for a living. Even the other idols were telling us it had nothing to do with security. In fact Michael Johns said David was tired and had a 6:00AM photo shoot in the morning. The others said it is a possibility that he may be out...so don't give me this nonesense that I should know....none of you know anything more than what someone tells you and it doesn't mean it is necessary the truth. I work in PR and I know what is often said to fans.

Third, I don't believe it is a security issue, I think it's an excuse....and that is my opinion and I am entitled to it without getting bashed. I have worked with many artists in the past....trust me I know their behavior.

Fourth, I know David was playing football and then he got on the bus....

so much for Michael Johns' tired excuse.

There was no reason why with security he could not greet fans or just go quickley down the line and say thank you. That is what Clay Aiken use to do...and no I am not an Aiken fan.... I even talked with security and they didn't say it had anything do with security issues that it was David's decision.

I had after party passes but because of the nonesense here, I will not share my experience.

Every idol winner that I recall, made an effort to come out and see fans after shows. Even Clay Aiken, who was immensely popular after being on the show, came out for every show...and shook hands with the fans.

Some of you can sit here and make excuses for David....it doesn't mean that I don't like him nor that I do not like his music, but I do give my opinion on the matter and if you don't agree, then disagree respectfully...

Thank you and have a nice day!

Now I've only vague knowledge of Clay Aiken, but from what I've seen he was highly unlikely to provoke the same reaction as David does.

So this wasn't posted by you then

Good Luck to those who get passess. I will be at the after party so I'm not that worried, unless Cook decides to take off in his limo again, then I may have to have a word with him.....via email of course. Keep fingers crossed. I've been doing a lot of talking with him about Philly

First of all.....some of you need to get your facts straight.

I use to work in the music business, I now work in Advertising. I do not email David on a regular basis nor have any conversations with him, however, I do have knowledge that he reads my mail and won't go any further than that. The email that i have is from his personal account from before American Idol.

Secondly, many people even insiders were not aware that David did not come out after the shows. I am not a regular poster on boards and do work for a living. Even the other idols were telling us it had nothing to do with security. In fact Michael Johns said David was tired and had a 6:00AM photo shoot in the morning. The others said it is a possibility that he may be out...so don't give me this nonesense that I should know....none of you know anything more than what someone tells you and it doesn't mean it is necessary the truth. I work in PR and I know what is often said to fans.

Third, I don't believe it is a security issue, I think it's an excuse....and that is my opinion and I am entitled to it without getting bashed. I have worked with many artists in the past....trust me I know their behavior.

Fourth, I know David was playing football and then he got on the bus....so much for Michael Johns' tired excuse. There was no reason why with security he could not greet fans or just go quickley down the line and say thank you. That is what Clay Aiken use to do...and no I am not an Aiken fan.... I even talked with security and they didn't say it had anything do with security issues that it was David's decision.

I had after party passes but because of the nonesense here, I will not share my experience.

Every idol winner that I recall, made an effort to come out and see fans after shows. Even Clay Aiken, who was immensely popular after being on the show, came out for every show...and shook hands with the fans.

Some of you can sit here and make excuses for David....it doesn't mean that I don't like him nor that I do not like his music, but I do give my opinion on the matter and if you don't agree, then disagree respectfully...

Thank you and have a nice day!

You know, I'm not an overly emotional person - although David does seem to bring it out in me - but it really hurts me when someone who is such a magnificent human being is attacked. I know, many people will say we don't really KNOW him... but that doesn't change what we DO know about him, how he's conducted himself for months, and what his persona is (whether it's one he's just "projecting" or it's the "real" him. Doesn't matter). And even if he has a bad day and snaps at a fan, has this man not earned like a thousand free passes from us? I'm just really roiled about this. Much more than David probably ever would be if he were reading this thread.

First of all.....some of you need to get your facts straight.

and that is my opinion and I am entitled to it without getting bashed.

I had after party passes but because of the nonesense here, I will not share my experience.

Cheers to Scott, who yet again is the voice of wisdom.

Perhaps some fans need to be reminded that during the Idol tour the ONLY thing David owes us fans is a great concert. The meet & greets, bus meetings, after-show signing insanity...that is all a perk that has been provided by the Idols when they have time. It was not included in the price of your ticket. Let's cut all of the Idols some slack here. They have been more than gracious and will be there to meet fans whenever they can, I am sure. Let's keep it positive!

You know, I'm not an overly emotional person - although David does seem to bring it out in me - but it really hurts me when someone who is such a magnificent human being is attacked. I know, many people will say we don't really KNOW him... but that doesn't change what we DO know about him, how he's conducted himself for months, and what his persona is (whether it's one he's just "projecting" or it's the "real" him. Doesn't matter). And even if he has a bad day and snaps at a fan, has this man not earned like a thousand free passes from us? I'm just really roiled about this. Much more than David probably ever would be if he was reading this thread.

And DAVID was the one who set the tone for this unprecedented amount of accessibility, starting with Lindz' amazing experience on day 1 in Glendale. Even before day one... when they arrived in Glendale. David got the other Idols out and made sure these meet and greets were long and thorough. He pulled the others off the buses that first day in Arizona. How quickly some people forget.

I know that we are probably speculating waaay too much as far as why David doesn't come out after the show. I personally didn't get to meet him. I was at the first show at Glendale. He was the first one off the bus after the show...got everyone out of the buses...and goofed around for at least a half hour with all the other idols.( I never saw Archie come out and Jason was out briefly) He was so happy trying to talk to fans and picking up notes etc...
However, I think that because of the dumb sign that" supposedly" was a joke, but did THREATEN his life, he and probably his management team don't want him out after the show. I also read that he got cuzzed out at couple of shows. This is just my take on the whole thing, since he is the winner some disgruntled fans took it too far, saying and doing things to him that pushed him into making the decision of staying in after the show. I don't think it is just his fans acting crazy, I think others that are not fans may have overstepped some bounderies. I personally wish he or someone would clear the air because I don't want him to loose any fan support over this. I personally don't care if he comes out or not, I think he has shown what a good person he is, and how grateful he is to his fans, and goes out of his way to show us his gratitude.

I won't be able to make it to a show on the tour but I do follow these threads because the excitement is contagious, even from afar ha ha!

You raise a lot of good points regarding some previously speculative behavior on behalf of some, but it may be as simple as he has studio time at night after the show (in some cases), or at other times has to catch a red eye flight back to west coast.

It is probably a variety of all these reasons combined but since he does make an effort to come before the show, the best fans can do is make sure other fans know so they're prepared (or not disappointed).

I'm curious, however, ---- how did it work with previous tours? I don't know AI before David (grin). Going back through all the previous 6 tours, did it reach a point where some Idols only came out before or after or stopped coming out at all?

I seem to consistently read that Chikezie never comes out after the show, either. I like the guy in general but his popularity is lower overall so there doesn't seem to be the same outcry for his absence as David.

Anyone know about how this tour compares to others?

Chikezie came out (along with all the other idols except for DC, think he flew back to LA) after the Detroit show...

It was posted on his folder at Idol Forums that Jeff Archuleta told fans that Chikeze had some complications after a surgery and hasn't been feeling well. I asked David yesterday if he would be coming out or not. His response was that Chikeze still wasn't feeling well so he didn't think he would be out.

Oh ok. So maybe it's been since Detroit that I was reading he didn't come out at night but I could just have bad memory, lol!

That's a shame about his surgery. I wonder when he managed to fit in surgery with the tour and all. I do recall one show where he didn't come out for PDSTM because Ramiele starts the song and does both his and her parts. But I don't remember which city. I want to say east coast for sure, not that long ago.

I would like to repeat what has been said here time and time again -- that David Cook does not owe anyone anything. I would hate to think that a lot of fans are jumping ship based on something as silly as him not being able to do M & G afterwards for a variety of reasons. It is my hope that this kind of petty, classless behavior is not morw widespread than the one person on this board who keeps harping on it.

He is a human being and he does not owe us anything.

First of all.....some of you need to get your facts straight.

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"...I will be at the after party so I'm not that worried, unless Cook decides to take off in his limo again, then I may have to have a word with him.....via email of course. Keep fingers crossed. I've been doing a lot of talking with him about Philly.....I certaintly hope he challenges himself on 8/13. hint, hint,.....backbend... "

Ok this says you've been doing a lot of talking WITH him. Emailing him is not talking WITH him. Funny I saw no backbend in philly.....

Also, if I had afterparty passes, I wouldn't have been outside waiting. I'm sure that holds true for any normal person.

Please also learn to check your grammar and spelling. Hugh is a name. Huge is an adjective describing something big.

Here is just one from the meet and greet, i have tons more on my friends camera.
Look for them later.
I got to the center around 3:30 and headed backstage with my Father in Law. It was pretty cool to see how intense the set up and all is for the shows(especially for one night). Tons of cases, their wardrobe, etc.They had their food all wrapped up, mostly salads. MJ, Carly and Chickeze were just hanging out in the hallway talking to production. I was a little disappointed with the meet and greet b/c I expected something different (but I am not complaining)! HA.
This was crazy, you had to keep walking by them. You couldn't take pics with them. I said to David "Hey, you guys coming out after the show?" He replied "some of us will, it depends on our schedule" . Duh wish I would have said something else. But there was really no time to converse and I was happy to just see him. The other idols were smiling and seemed friendly. Carly seems like such a doll. David A seemed really shy. Chickeze was like "Helllo ladies". So that was the extent of it. I do have some great shots though so look for them later. Don't know what it is about this Cook guy that got me hooked! I love the good guy, nerd, turned rock star image! It's all in good fun, my husband don't mind! HA

Here is just one from the meet and greet, i have tons more on my friends camera.
Look for them later.
I got to the center around 3:30 and headed backstage with my Father in Law. It was pretty cool to see how intense the set up and all is for the shows(especially for one night). Tons of cases, their wardrobe, etc.They had their food all wrapped up, mostly salads. MJ, Carly and Chickeze were just hanging out in the hallway talking to production. I was a little disappointed with the meet and greet b/c I expected something different (but I am not complaining)! HA.
This was crazy, you had to keep walking by them. You couldn't take pics with them. I said to David "Hey, you guys coming out after the show?" He replied "some of us will, it depends on our schedule" . Duh wish I would have said something else. But there was really no time to converse and I was happy to just see him. The other idols were smiling and seemed friendly. Carly seems like such a doll. David A seemed really shy. Chickeze was like "Helllo ladies". So that was the extent of it. I do have some great shots though so look for them later. Don't know what it is about this Cook guy that got me hooked! I love the good guy, nerd, turned rock star image! It's all in good fun, my husband don't mind! HA

Wow, Wow, Wow. I had the best time. My daughter (16) and I snuck over to seats that were RIGHT next to the right side of the stage. (their right, my left). Best seat in the house by far. We made friends with a security guard and begged him to let us back stage, he said he couldn't but he'de do what he could do. 5 minutes later, (Carly was on), David peeked out behind the black curtain on the side of the stage and waved real quick and went back in. Right after the show, he came back out, and shook all our hands and talked for a few seconds....Told us over and over how much he appreciates us coming out to see him and how he loves all his fans, and thanked us several times for coming. I was SPEECHLESS!!! He loves his fans...security must not let him out after the shows, because the crowd goes wild for him. I have some great pics, one being right under him, when he stood up on the metal bars during Hero. And another shaking my daughters hand, and some good close up singing. I'll try to get them for you all later.

Allison, if you are here, I'm the crazy one you met last night & sat with next to the stage. We were going to smoke a cigarette, even though we don't smoke, after our *moment*

OH MY GOD-I just got home and saw this post! I am wanting MORE MORE MORE! Those 4 seats just under the catwalk were by FAR the best I've had in 5 shows! My daughter has yet to put the My Hero video on the computer, but I CANNOT WAIT to see it! I had an unbelievable time with you and your daughter, she was a sweetheart and please tell her I wish I could share the pink tie with her! And David coming out and squeezing my hand and thanking us over and over was something I will never forget-AND NO GUYLINER!! I hope he heard me say how much I loved him without it! I tried to find that security guy afterwards to thank him, but will probably write a note to the head of security about him, since he make an unbelievable night just insane for us!
Just goes to show what 2 crazy moms will do for Mr. Cook!! You have to just do it!!!