We all know our favorite word nerd and HS forensics team member is super smart. I just wonder how smart. Sounded like a good thread... to guess his IQ. I honestly think he's near or at the genius level. I say at least in the clinical "gifted" range, but possibly a genius. Wikipedia gives this accepted range of IQs

Genius is >144
Gifted = 130-144
Above average = 115-129
Higher average = 100-114
Lower average = 85-99
Below average = 70-84
Borderline low = 55-69
Low is <55

I base my opinion on these demonstrations of intelligence:
1) His verbal skills (that includes being so articulate, his love of word puzzles, reading, etc)
2) His critical thinking (his approach to music, his AI selections, focus, etc)
3) How quickly he can adapt
4) His quick wit (even on just 1 hour sleep!)

Oh that man is an effin Genius!

I'd say he's well above 135. So I'd say "Genius".

He's easily in the genius range. If I can qualify for MENSA I am damn sure he can cause I am not all that and a bag of chips

Hmmm...the last time I had mine measured it was in the gifted range. So, I'd have to say that David is definitely a genius!

Smart guys are sexy! Guys who can't string two coherent sentences together are boring.

I wonder if he is into politics and world events?

Definitely about 135 without a doubt!

I believe he's a genius

I honestly couldn't say what his IQ might be. He'd have to be given a full scale IQ test by a psychologist, usually the WAIS, and that takes about three hours.

There are subtests that makes up two sections, performance and verbal. I'd say his verbal IQ would be pretty high. Not sure what his performance IQ would be.

He is smarter than me I think - and I can go to MENSA!

I read something about maintaining a 3.0 grade point average (I don't know what that means - I'm from Aussie and we dont score like that)

Starrlight you slay me! That's funny. I think he's above 140.

I'd say he's Gifted....he didn't invent music or the guitar or anything so I wouldn't say he's a genius by the definition above....but very gifted or atleast above average

....Doing my best Yogi Bear imitation, "Smarter than the average Idol???"

Gifted, that's for sure.

Genius musically. Just look what he did with all his songs ... They were far better than the originals, even with only a few days to work on them. Just can't wait for his Album ... I think it's going to be totally amazing.

Geez! What a guy! Perfect in every way ..

Oh yeah he is defeintly a genius. Totally agree wit you.

I'm going to have to go with gifted.

Geniusly gifted

Mine's just into the gifted range...so I'd say his is at the top of it!!!

I don't know about David - I'm just happy to find myself in the 'higher average' range. That makes me happy.

Dude, neither did I. Hell I can barely find my keys half the time, and yet numerically I qualify. There are lots of people out there who don't come off as freakishly bright who actually do land in the range. His verbal ablility and his strengths with song composition and arrangement speak to a high level of verbal intelligence.




Well the number itself is not really indicative of your intellectual skills but rather your potential. In the 6th grade my entire talented and gifted class broke into our principals file cabinet and read our scores. We had revenge of the nerd boys in that class who are genetic folks now and they were not the highest in the class.

I am poster child for not living up to potential

I'm above average...and I'm 13 (NO I DIDN'T JUsT SAY THAT! -.- 121-125...i kinda forgot, but i remember it was above 120 but below 126...so i made it between 121-125. They say I excell and writing and vocabulary is a strong point, how did that know that I'm a word nerd?...hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia,that was really hard to remember.)

Hahaha! yeah!

I would say.. he's a Genius. He knows different words.. Haha.. Word Nerd!

I'm gifted, so I would say he is in the gifted-genius range, although I heard him say one time in an interview he is not too good with math...

He wouldn't have to be. It's either/or or both.

Eash, if I am gifted then he is definitely about 140 or more. I'd say upper range of gifted.

No way to know I guess.

But, he's one smart cookie!

he's really a genius!!i love him!!

Based on all that was said, I'm going to say he's a real Genius for sure

We can never know for sure, but his teachers should know. Maybe we should ask Mrs. Gentry, hehe.

It's really wierd about him being left handed and good with words. Usually people who are left-handed are good in logic, math. But he seems to be a logical person who's also good in verbal skills. This could mean that he's a genius, in the sense that he scores high in all the aspects that would make a man fit the description of genius.

But let's just say that his IQ is not in the genius level, we can only be sure that his EQ is just over the top. His inter-personal skills is phenomenal, his sense of empathy is very obvious. If that does not make him genius then nothing else will.

SHOULD be more than 135 ... mines 129!!

hes smart- no doubt about it. why doesnt someone ask him what his IQ is? wouldnt that be the easiest way to go about it?

ive never had my IQ tested, but i held a 3.5 or above GPA all the way through school and was on the deans list all through college, plus graduated with high honors. so i say that he has got to be somewhere in the area of my intelligence.

He's Genius, better than Einstein of course!haha

Lets send him an IQ test... LOL!

3.0 is equivalent to a "B" on the letter grading system. That's very good actually!
I also heard that he likes to read Latin for fun!

I had a 3.5 in high school, I start college tomorrow so we shall see what happens!

I say 'gifted', but who knows if he shows us he's got the 144 pts.

QUOTE (amor825 @ May 26 2008, 08:38 AM)

It's really wierd about him being left handed and good with words. Usually people who are left-handed are good in logic, math. But he seems to be a logical person who's also good in verbal skills. This could mean that he's a genius, in the sense that he scores high in all the aspects that would make a man fit the description of genius.

I just have to say... left-handed people are actually dominant in the right side of the brain, which is the creative side, not the "logical" side that deals with math and stuff lol (which makes sense, considering i'm best at English/music/foreign language and terrible at math, and I'm left-handed, and two of my best friends are the same way)

anyways, onto DC... my guess would be that if I can make it into "gifted", he's probably at least that or more!

WE could send him a test .... a link or something ... there are free IQ tests at tickle.com ...you ppl could also check your IQ!!

haha, thats great


I'd say he's def gifted.

that's a great question to ask on larry king tomorrow. david, what's your IQ? LOL

Hmm I dont know. I think he is pretty smart verbally but it is only one factor that sums up intelligence. Meaning, there is the logical skill, mathematical, etc etc...... The best way to know is to actually give him a test.

We can measure a person's IQ, Creativity and EQ. I guess--he is pretty well gifted coz he isnt one-sided because he is able to encompass each category: he's intellectual (nerd), creative (the artist), and emotionally balanced (hottie!)

Extra note: He is left-handed, right? Did you know that depression is a right-brain activity? I hope he doesnt get toooo depressed.... If that happens, David, Im very much available to help you get rid of depression ahehehe

I'm educatedly guesstimating the gifted range (though we all think he's a genuis from the emotional aspect
of how he's stolen our hearts!:)

I base my guess on these things: 1)he is personal skills are far above the average and he seems very well-balanced (genius level persons often have much difficulty in this area--many times they are not
people persons & they have, let's just say, not so much common sense. ie. I went to school w/ a
certified genius who blew his thumb off while making a pipebomb at home in his basement when
he should have been at school.)

2)he had a B average in school (genius level can pretty much pull of an A without
ever attending class), but I bet he got that B without going to alot of classes and only
a fair amount of studying!

Also, his logic & analytic skills are above average, not sure why math gave him a problem,
except maybe it just didnt interest him. You can definitely be left-handed and auditorily oriented
(creative) and yet have very strong other hemisphere. If you look online there is a test
you can take where you answer questions and then they'll show you an image of a brain scan
and where your "point" is (ie. stronger left or right hemisphere, auditory or visual, creative or analytical).
It is really cool and very accurate.

I am almost dead center, slightly to the visual side. and I did do slightly better in math & science in MS/HS school than English. Like A+ math/science versus A-/B+ in creative writing (in grammer courses I got A's--grammer is based on linguistics and syntax which is an analytic/logic skill). What is odd about this is that I am left-handed!!
I think I suppressed alot of that creative side during adolescence, but it has resurfaced w/ force in my adult years.

As for his B (3.0) average, he likely easily would have had closer to 4.0 if he had studied more; he said that
he skipped sometimes to do music. I can relate somewhat. In college I let my GPA slip to 3.+
because I was too busy hanging out w/ friends and crammed for tests the nite before!! I guess
he is about 130-140. He has to be smarter than average to have been reading Foucault's Pendulum by
Umberto Eco, that is for sure!

So, in the 10th grade I did an IQ test (they were offered, but you had to pay 5 bucks), and I got 132. But I like to consider myself quite the little idiot. Oh well.

Anyhoo, I would give David at least 135-138 (my mom is 138, btw)

I think that's fairly common for gifted artists. If it interests them or they see it as tangibly applicable to their life, they excell. In those other areas, they become under achievers. And David was so busy with his band that I'm sure it interfered with his studies. He had to stretch out college because he was full time in Axium and then MWK. But the smarts are definitely there, and he's a very quick learner. He's highly adaptable and is a critical thinker. Nearly a month after I launched this thread, I would have to say gifted too. And that's still puts him in a very high percentile! Gifted, kind, charming, courteous, humble, talented, sexy and handsome. Really is the total package.

In my humble opinion IQ's don't always reflect intelligence...We know DC is good with words, but what about maths?

I would guess his at around 142... But thats from going on my own IQ (I had my done 'officially' a few years back, and have done a few online recently) I would say his is around my IQ...Similar age too!

But like I said I know a lot of intelligent people who have a low IQ and stupid people with a high IQ!

Nice! I like that!

I say Genius. He's like Mozart and Beethoven for Rock. They didn't invent the instruments either but look what they produced. He can turn songs that are just OK or even Sappy into Amazing songs. In the beginning when Ryan announced that David would be singing "Hello" next, my husband and I looked at each other and groaned. I hated that song. 10 minutes later I was in love with the song. Every song he has touched is better than the original. I think he is a musical Genius! Does that make me a smart cookie too?

It's not that usual - I used to do a very analytic job studying crime patterns, but my maths skills are completely non existant, just cannot get to grips with any aspect beyond basing addition and subtraction (although I'm sure David' nowhere near as bad as me).

He is intelligent, brilliant, and hot! that's all..

ROFLMAO. That's for sure.

In the gifted range no doubt, as am I

i think he ranges from above average to a gifted...
from the way he present himself publicly.. i think he's a guy you would really like to hangout with the whole time talking about anything and everything under the sun.. it's a plus factor if you're musically oriented person like you played an instrument then got to have a jam with him..
he's a great guy.. talented and know what he really wants...

kuddos to him..!