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cookie-monster
If David had come into this with the exact same attitude, openness and passion he has now, but with a ring on his left hand (i.e. MJ), would you be as big of a fan as you are now? Cause from what i'm reading on these closed threads, some of the people on this board are suddenly no longer fans if he starts dating. That's a bit silly if you ask me. He's only human, right?

I became a fan of David because of his passion, honesty and music, not because of any chance of dating him. The physical attraction i have for him, that most of us here do in fact, came after (and partly because) i was already a fan of his incredible voice and deep passion for music.
cookielust
actually no. i would still be big fan of his. i still am a big fan of MJ even though he's married. it doesn't mean i don't get heart flutters when I watch either of them, of course it does, there's this certain teeny bopper feeling that goes with being a fan but for me like 90% of how much i like both of them is because they're great singers and performers.... okay maybe just 85% on MJ LOL but you get what i mean.

question is, you think DC would've won if he was married/had a gf/ engaged? that's a whole 'nother story.
Mizz Afrikano
a Ring never stops me.. hehehehe

just kidding..

no i was a fan of DC from the beginning. and i always ofcourse wondered of he was single or not. we only knew later when some girl asked.
so yeah.. DC all the way,..
BethRiot
I would still be a big fan like I am if he was married.
Or if he had or has a girlfriend.
I love him for his music
and of course his sex hair
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cookielust
QUOTE (BethRiot @ May 27 2008, 07:31 PM) *
I love him for his music
and of course his sex hair
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isn't it great how music and sex hair never gets tarnished by whether someone's single or not? biggrin.gif
ajpr2
A ring doesn't make a person. I've loved him from the beginning. I'm not sure what his relationship status has to do with anything. Married? Gay? ENgaged? That won't change what we love about him.
Rheanne
I've been a fan of David's since the auditions and I will continue to support David! I love him because he is an amazing singer, brilliant songwriter, and incredible person.
CookieNookie
It's an unfortunate thing that someone's dating/marital status can have an effect on how people perceive things about said person. I, personally, find it disrespectful to stop being a fan because he is dating. David is only human, and he should have the right to find companionship with whom HE chooses. So, NO (even if I was single), a ring on his finger would not have changed my feelings about him.
getshorty
I'm a fan of David's music, period. I think his fan base grew by leaps and bounds due to his single status though, that did not hurt. Bottom line, he is hot, single guy who is going to date.

I'm happy if he is happy.

eta: Good point, CookieNookie, it's disrespectful to David the person to bash his friends and girlfriends. We, as fans, are better than that.
vic
Of course I'd still be here and stalking his vids
Him being dating, engaged or married doesn't make his music and less moving and that is what i fell in love with...along with those gorgeous eyes - but that was afterwards so that doesnt count laugh.gif
I think it's great that he's dating...maybe this can inspire him to write really cool music that I can pretend was for me hehe
Well plainly, he's so outa reach for me anyway it wouldn't make any difference whether he's single or not
Rhoda
Well, frankly, when I saw his audition, I didn't even look at his left ring finger. I just heard and FELT his amazing voice. If he had of been married, I don't think it would have changed anything, other than I would limit how far I go in my fantasies with him!
caseydee
How fickle! David Cook has worked hard and he deserves to have a date. Give me a break. He is in CA with no family and what do you want from him, to be a hermit? I trust David's decisions. I say, good for you David. You deserve to have some normalcy and that sure includes dating. Your music is what I am looking for and cannot wait to see you on tour and your post idol album.
CookFanInky
As a slightly pudgy, married 15 years, woman who is twice his age . . .

If David were married or not, dating or not . . . he still looks hot and still has that amazing voice. As far as I know, dating is not against the law or anything like that. He seems to be a pretty down to earth guy, and apparently fairly intelligent as well.

I've been a fan since Omaha and see no reason to change.

willow
Actually one of the things that saddened me about the whole time David was on AI was that he didn't have anyone special to share the experience with. Oh he certainly had his mother and Andrew and Michael, but I always felt bad that he didn't have someone close to his heart that he could call in the middle of the night to talk about his hopes and dreams and fears.

Somewhere I read that part of DC's marketability was the fact that he was single -- and then claimed that being married is what hurt Chris Daughtry, but I have to disagree with that because, to me, one of the most admirable traits CD had was his unwavering devotion to his wife and kids and the sacrifice he had to make being away from them for so long. His being married had no bearing on the fact that I loved him as a musician and a performer, and the same holds true for DC, no matter his dating status.

I think it's safe to say that the majority of us on this board wants the best for David and wants him to be happy.
annie702
I can only speak for myself...absolutely, YES. This man moves me.
cookielust
QUOTE (willow @ May 27 2008, 09:54 PM) *
Somewhere I read that part of DC's marketability was the fact that he was single -- and then claimed that being married is what hurt Chris Daughtry, but I have to disagree with that because, to me, one of the most admirable traits CD had was his unwavering devotion to his wife and kids and the sacrifice he had to make being away from them for so long. His being married had no bearing on the fact that I loved him as a musician and a performer, and the same holds true for DC, no matter his dating status.

OMG. i totally agree with this. I was even more drawn to Daughtry after I saw how much he loved his family.
beckHEARTSdc
ive loved him from the get-go. because of his VOICE. i am not one to get sucked up into gossip of the personal lives of celebrities and what not, so i had no idea if he was single/married/etc. it wouldnt have made a difference to me either which way. he is an amazing man and KUDOS to any woman who is lucky enough to get to spend one on one time with him. i would love to just sit down and play a game of scrabble with him. that would rock.
annie702
QUOTE (beckHEARTSdc @ May 27 2008, 06:34 AM) *
ive loved him from the get-go. because of his VOICE. i am not one to get sucked up into gossip of the personal lives of celebrities and what not, so i had no idea if he was single/married/etc. it wouldnt have made a difference to me either which way. he is an amazing man and KUDOS to any woman who is lucky enough to get to spend one on one time with him. i would love to just sit down and play a game of scrabble with him. that would rock.


LOL! So I'm not the only one!!! I was also thinking about Scattegories and Taboo.
Pam08
I don't know if I would have been so much of a "fangirl" but I still would have been a fan. It stinks that some people think he can't have a girlfriend or a private life and choose not to be a fan because of it. I fell in love with his voice first. The looks came later. smile.gif
beckHEARTSdc
HA those games would be fun too. or maybe even boggle. smile.gif
Cookey's Fan
If I were a girl, I can tell you I will STILL be his biggest fan. smile.gif

Whether his marital status changes or not, doesn't really concern me - it's his music that I care more for.

And seriously, Cookie has the right to find a significant other and be happy. It will be a total bummer if he can't do so just because of some stigma.
purpleorchids
I would be a fangirl no matter what. In fact, I love Chris Daughtry's music too. But every time I read a thread like this I think of how George Clooney has remained single for so many years, and still is I believe?? I think the fangirls do go a little more crazy for an eligible bachelor with the naughty thoughts, it's just human nature when it's such a hot guy.I think fangirls might hold back a little more if he was married, rather than express themselves so openly. You have to more respectful if there is a significant other. It's all good and really about the music.
Starrlight
I liked him from his audition and voted for him every week. Even before the makeover when he was still just the cute guy with the killer voice. Frankly I always assumed he was dating someone. I am with David in the wondering just how it is that he IS still single. Does it affect my being a fan? Of course not. That would be pretty damn ridiculous since there is a great chance of pigs winging out of my posterior than my dating him!

As for Daughtry, I liked him MORE for family status not less.
*InlovewithDC*
I'll be honest and say that I probably wouldn't have been AS crazy about him if he weren't single, just because I am a respectful person and I know I would never be drooling over another woman's husband (like how I drool over David now wub.gif ).

I don't really see the big deal about a date with Kim. It's just a date people (not you people, the people who say they aren't going to be his fans anymore). She seems nice enough and I think it's probably good for him to have someone nice to help him make his way around Hollywood, which can be a very scary place with the crazy paps.

I'm not going to stop being his fan by any means. I loved his music before AI, on AI, and I'm so excited about what he's going to put out next. But, if he ever reads this, David, I will always have a place in my heart that is waiting for you and I will love you forever.
Krista
...I don't find the purpose in being a fan of someone just because they are SINGLE.

It's ridiculous.

You know why I'm a fan?
He's got amazing talent, i think he's a flawless writer. If someone can put what they feel down in words on paper and make me feel it too, THAT IS WHEN I'M HOOKED.

I also really respect that fact that he's not LYING about dating. Most artist would lie to further their career, we've got a respectable man on our hands here... married, dating, engaged, heartbroken, WHATEVER it is...He seems like an honest guy, and I like that.
cookie-head
honestly..and not to hurt anyone's feelings..but being an older fan and remembering the teeny-bopper
years of my own youth...i think there is a question of maturity level and contact with reality...
oh i remember being SO in love with rock stars hoping one day i would marry them..until the next one
came along and i wanted 'him' instead....lol

i know it can be very painful to see one's idol attached because we idealize whom they are and feel that is
the kind of man we would love to have....but the facts are that unless you know the man personally...you really
don't know him...also, out of all the millions of fans and people he will come in contact with...is it realistic
to think you would ever even get a 'date' with him? and one must realize the difference between love and
infatuation...
my biggest point here tho is that...if you love and care about david then you will support him and WANT him
to be happy no matter what he does....if one became a fan solely because he is cute and single...that is not
very substantial and the odds are good - would not remain a very good fan down the road....

the simple definition of love is' an UNSELFISH concern for
the well being of another..without conditions'....

sorry, but the concept that by this man having a life is some kind of 'cheating' on any particular fan is just really absurd and NOT caring in any way for HIM.....would anyone REALLY expect him NOT to have a relationship to be true to a million fans for the wrong reasons??? that's insane! and if he were to think that way i would be concerned about HIS psyche!!
ayeyobaybayy
I wouldn't care either way. Because who he's dating doesn't really matter. His voice and his passion for music is what matters. And honestly, I'm sure we'd all want to see David happy, and if a woman he dates makes him happy, who are we to get mad about that.
TaraChell
QUOTE
You know why I'm a fan?
He's got amazing talent, i think he's a flawless writer. If someone can put what they feel down in words on paper and make me feel it too, THAT IS WHEN I'M HOOKED.

Well said Krista!

I love David because of who he is as an artist. I have never seen any other artist who made a video to thank their fans so soon after their rise to fame. I think David is 1 in a million, and nothing will change that. Just because he is or isn't dating someone doesn't change who he is or why I fell in love with him in the first place.
Lily
For me, I started watching American Idol just hoping for another rocker to make it this season. When David auditioned, I just knew he was gonna make it into the show cause he just had an amazing voice. I told my dad right away that there was a rocker, and he was happy too.. me and my Dad were fans of his from the start.^^ I really don't even think I gave much thought on if he was single or not..that didn't really matter. Sure I thought he was cute, but that wasn't really the point. o_O..
The talent, voice, his personality on stage & all that was what drew me in. I never really had a favourite on the show as much as I liked David this year. This was definetly the best season.
So ya, I would have still liked him single or not. It just seems kinda silly for people to be mad over something he does in his personal life like who he is dating. Its his life..and we should just be happy that he is happy. happy.gif
mo0chips4co0kie
yes! i would still be a fan of his even if he was married( i mean before idol)..
..it's actually easier for us fans, we can still be his obsessive fangirls
and at least there's less stress.

stress in terms of when he would have relationships in the future (when he is not married),
it would drive us crazy wondering what's really going on with both parties
rather than if he had a wife(before idol^^), we cookies won't be worriyn' bout those
dates..--

but still he also has a life so...he must live it..^^

i became his fan for his awesome talent and honestly i did also because he's hawt..
..but still..what are fangirls for??heh:D
jls141
Was a fan from his first audition so didn't even know he was single until the question was put to him many weeks later. His status bears no fact on whether i will purchase his music or not. The truth is when he said he was single a little part of me went 'yes' as realised there are still guys out there who aren't weirdo's, easy on the eye and have killer voices (don't you think my list of characteristics in a boyfriend is a bit picky?!!!!).

Michael Johns was my other favourite but him being married didn't change the fact i wanted him to do well and that i'll keep an eye out for his songs.

As i've stated on another topic - its all about the music!
Jenney
QUOTE (dcsoldestfan @ May 27 2008, 08:35 AM) *
honestly..and not to hurt anyone's feelings..but being an older fan and remembering the teeny-bopper
years of my own youth...i think there is a question of maturity level and contact with reality...
oh i remember being SO in love with rock stars hoping one day i would marry them..until the next one
came along and i wanted 'him' instead....lol

i know it can be very painful to see one's idol attached because we idealize whom they are and feel that is
the kind of man we would love to have....but the facts are that unless you know the man personally...you really
don't know him...also, out of all the millions of fans and people he will come in contact with...is it realistic
to think you would ever even get a 'date' with him? and one must realize the difference between love and
infatuation...
my biggest point here tho is that...if you love and care about david then you will support him and WANT him
to be happy no matter what he does....if one became a fan solely because he is cute and single...that is not
very substantial and the odds are good - would not remain a very good fan down the road....

the simple definition of love is' an UNSELFISH concern for
the well being of another..without conditions'....

sorry, but the concept that by this man having a life is some kind of 'cheating' on any particular fan is just really absurd and NOT caring in any way for HIM.....would anyone REALLY expect him NOT to have a relationship to be true to a million fans for the wrong reasons??? that's insane! and if he were to think that way i would be concerned about HIS psyche!!


Wow, very well put, I went through the same thing as a teenager and have been thinking the same thing you've
expressed so well here. I think it's good that David does have so many older fans who've been through
this before and can understand that a fan crush is a fan crush, not an actual relationship.
x peaches x
I honestly don't know why some people would not like him even if he has a gf, or was married!!
I mean, yeah, I'm super jealus of Kimberly (who wouldn't be??), but, why would I hate him cause they're dating?? That's stupid.
If he's happy, then I'm happy.
There's no way that I'll let a little thing like this get in the way of my love for DC.
CookieHoney
I wouldn't give a hoot if David were single/married/in a relationship. He is a fantastic musician, and that's what won me over. His humility, intelligence, and smokin' hot looks were just icing on the cake. As hot as I think David is, I ain't leaving my husband for him, because 1) I bear no illusions about what the relationship alluded to in David's "Thank You" video is, and 2) because I love my hubby more than anyone in the world.

I liked Michael Johns from the beginning, and when I saw the ring on his finger during his audition, I didn't bat an eye. When he opened his mouth and the accent came out, my ears perked up (I'm a sucker for Aussies), and when he opened his mouth to sing, I thought, "All right! This guy is good!"

As for Chris Daughtry, I thought he rocked something major from the start, and to see that he was such a devoted family man upped my opinion of him because we need to see more stories about good guys like him.

Anyway, back to David... I think that for a segment of his fanbase, his being single makes him more attractive, which is pretty shallow. I want to think that the Word Nerds are more mature and substantive than that.
Yaara
Honestly, yes - I'd still be a fan even if he was married. Some of my music idols are either married or in a serious relationship (Andrew McMahon from Something Corporate/Jack's Mannequin is married, Matt Thiessen from Relient K is in a serious relationships and has written love songs for his girl, the other Relient K members are married and this is one of my favorite bands, Ryan Ross from Panic At The Disco is in a relationship etc.) and I don't like them any less because of it.

Actually, them being in love actually produces some awesome results music-wise. Matt Thiessen has written 3 awesome songs for his girl, "Must've Done Something Right", "I'm Taking You With Me" and "The Best Thing". Andrew McMahon wrote most of Jack's Mannequin's first album "Everything In Transit" about his wife Kelly and this is an amazing album, not to mention the old Something Corporate song "Konstantine" that he wrote for his girlfriend at the time.

So generally, said this before and will say this again - a happy and in love David is only good for us. It will inspire him to write music, it'll help his performances be even more amazing than they already are, and it'll mean someone we all love and respect will walk around with a smile on his face. Why not?

I'm sad that some people are abandoning him because he asked a girl out. How lame are all of you people for that?
Nysz Cookie
Throughout this entire saga of kimberly and david, I was thinking about this.

Let me see, contestants that are married such as Chris Daughtry and Michael Johns happen to still make it huge rite? Being married didn't stop them from getting tonnes and tonnes of votes each single week. I don't think their status cost them their elimination in the competition.

But, unfortunately, for an artist, being single and available does HELP an artiste, because there are LOTS of fans out there who will only support an artist only if he is single. Once again, it's the whole fandom thing. People just do weird stuff when they are so infatuated with someone.

Personally, I really admire those artistes who are married, cos they have someone to keep them sane and grounded. To confide in, to share the joys and worries of being in the entertainment world. When I look at how religiously MJ's wife attends the show, I was touched. I totally dig married men who are loyal and loving to their wives. I just feel like voting more. smile.gif Oh well, that is just me babbling.

When it was known that David was single, I was thinking to myself "Ok.. this is gonna be a huge thing. Lots of girls will swoon and vote for him!" It's really a huge attraction. But not for me. One, I care MORE for the voice rather than his love life. Two, even if he is single, SO? Out of the million girls around, do I honestly think that I stand a chance? LOL! he doesnt even know I exist! The dream to be with David is just a perfect dream which will NEVER come true. NEVER.

Oh well David.. I'm sorry that you have to endure all this so soon right after your win. But this is indeed a part of being an artiste. Lots of gossips and speculations. For a while, I was hoping that you are already married. Then we can really see how huge your true fanbase really is.

Sorry if I offended some of you.
CookieHoney
QUOTE (Yaara @ May 27 2008, 09:58 AM) *
I'm sad that some people are abandoning him because he asked a girl out. How lame are all of you people for that?

Pretty freakin' lame, in my book. I'm just glad that the real Word Nerds refuse to be brought down by all the drama, which shouldn't even be.
Yaara
QUOTE (CookieHoney @ May 27 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Pretty freakin' lame, in my book. I'm just glad that the real Word Nerds refuse to be brought down by all the drama, which shouldn't even be.


Honestly, I thought we were all mature people. For a minute there I thought I surfed into an Archie fansite tongue.gif No offense to Archie and his fans but he does have a reputation of wooing the 12-year-olders.
citylights
A lot of my favourite musicians are married.
IF he was married going into this competition it wouldn't bother me at all.

Raine Maida, i have loved this man (for his musical talents and such) since I was 4 - and now im 19. He's married to Chantal Kreviazuk. Even tho he's married it doesn't have an effect on me i heart him for who he is, not who he's with.

David could be Bi, Gay, Straight or anything else and I would still appreciate him for what and who he is. Music is what matters and everything else comes in second Not always a close second but his music is the one thing we should focus on first. Also personality has a lot to do with it as well. If david was a prick or an a*s then I might not be as big as a fan as I am currently. He's talented and thats all that matters.

Good question, I actually had to think.
Vicky
You know, the sad thing about all of this is that we have to seperate the real fans from the fickle ones. In my opinion, if you're just into David because he's attrative and single, then you're missing the whole point of what being a fan of him (and anyone else for that matter) is all about.

A lot of the people I support (wrestlers, other musicians) are married and that doesn't change anything that I feel for them. I think some of them are attractive, but that's not the reason I'm a fan. I'm a fan because of the dedication they have to their craft and how humble and appreciative they are to their fans and with their success in general. I've always noticed looks a LONG time after I notice the talent. I've always told myself that if I find myself supporting someone strictly because of their looks, then something is wrong and I need to re-evaluate myself. Looks are extra, but like I always say - talent is forever, looks are temporary. Where are all the so-called fans going to be when David has gray hair, or even no hair at all? Where will the so-called fans be when he's no longer in his prime and he becomes a topic of the past while younger musicians take his place and make themselves known to this world? Where will those fans be? I know where I'll be. I'll be in the comfort of my own home, with my David Cook albums, still rocking out to his music and telling all the young guns around me all I know about David and I'll break out all of my dusty tapes of his performances to grandchildren and great grandchilden while sharing a part of my music life that meant so much to me while I was their age.

If you're just in it for David's looks, you're just not getting it at all. Either you're in it for the music, or you're just not in it period.
Kateland
QUOTE (cookielust @ May 27 2008, 03:35 AM) *
isn't it great how music and sex hair never gets tarnished by whether someone's single or not? biggrin.gif


hehe...the true beauty of sex hair and music...isn't it just wonderful? *sigh*
cookie-monster
I came on here expecting this to be closed to be honest, so i'm glad it's started a real conversation. For those who posted thank you for getting what i meant when asking the questions i did. There are some silly little girls who think it's "disrespectful" he's wanting to date. WHAT?!?!?!?! I just don't get it. He's a healthy, attractive, 25 year old man, what do you think he wants, to be alone because his fans think he's hot?

And no i don't mean anyone here...or hope i don't smile.gif

*shakes head*
perezluipio
My love for him wont change whether he's single or not... but ill be sad if he'll be dating soon... becoz i wont have a chance to date him.... hahaha (sorry guyz, just daydreaming! rolleyes.gif )
CBB
QUOTE (cookie-monster @ May 27 2008, 04:13 AM) *
If David had come into this with the exact same attitude, openness and passion he has now, but with a ring on his left hand (i.e. MJ), would you be as big of a fan as you are now? Cause from what i'm reading on these closed threads, some of the people on this board are suddenly no longer fans if he starts dating. That's a bit silly if you ask me. He's only human, right?

I became a fan of David because of his passion, honesty and music, not because of any chance of dating him. The physical attraction i have for him, that most of us here do in fact, came after (and partly because) i was already a fan of his incredible voice and deep passion for music.


I'm a DC fan because of his voice. Plain and simple really.

Whether he's dating, engaged or married, it doesn't change one simple fact about him... the boy can sing! Like MJ, I love that man, I think he's an amazing singer and I'd definitely buy his songs - it doesn't bother one at all that he's married. It makes no difference to his voice and that's the one thing that really matters.

Vicky
QUOTE (cookie-monster @ May 27 2008, 01:25 PM) *
He's a healthy, attractive, 25 year old man, what do you think he wants, to be alone because his fans think he's hot?


LOL! Now that was pretty funny. That just sparked a scene in my head.....

*Andrew walks into the kitchen and sees David drowning himself in sorrow over a bottle of alcohol*

Andrew: Dude, what is wrong with you? Why are you hitting the bottle?

David: *in a drunken haze, looks at his brother* I can't date.

Andrew: The hell you mean you can't date?

David: I've got a ton of female fans that think I'm hot and because of that....I can't date....

Andrew: So let me get this straight - you're not dating because women the world over have the hots for you and
as a result you're hitting the bottle?

David: Damn right. *takes a swig of his alcohol*
Cookieschick
ring not ring dating not dating...it don't change his amazing voice!
Kateland
QUOTE (Cookieschick @ May 27 2008, 10:32 AM) *
ring not ring dating not dating...it don't change his amazing voice!


^WORD!!!!!
or his sex hair! LMAO
MontanaWordNerd
This is going to sound crazy, but when Idol first started this season, my life was insane between school and work and I got lost on how many of the top 12 guys were married. I must have gotten him and MJ's hands mixed up or something because I couldn't keep track of them and thought David had a ring for the first couple weeks!! I know it sounds ludicrous, but I honestly did. Now I love the fact that he's single, but even when he does find that special someone and walk down the aisle, I will love him just as much. He'll still have that voice that I can feel all through my body that does things to me I can't even explain. He'll still be an artist I love to listen to and watch and hear talk. I'm a huge fan of Chris Daughtry, but he's married. It really doesn't matter to me. Sure I like to live in a little fantasy world where David and I will be together forever, but I realize that the chances of that happening are slim to none. Regardless of that, he is the quintessential man and musician and nothing will ever stop me from being a die-hard fan.
baybieap
Well I'm married, so I may not be as qualified to answer this question as others but, I wouold still be a fan. I would still be the obsessive fan that I am now. To me he has always been unavailable, since I am married. I look at him the way I look at Daughtry (even though I'm a much bigger fan of Cook). Daughtry was married while he was on AI, I thought he was incredibly hot and such a talented musician. I think the same thing about David, just on a bigger and much more profound level. His music is amazing, he is absolutely gorgeous (and makes my dreams TMTH, lol). If he were married, I would think no differently.
neciekay
How immature some can be...Jealous Yes I will admit. I would love to be in Kimberly Caldwell's shoes any day, But I never will and I know that. David deserves to be happy. Im a married woman anyway...As someone said earlier. I would be happy sitting down and doing crossword puzzles with him and her. I fell in lust with him because of his voice ( i mean seriously he was not that hot during auditions gals) His music touches me. He is a sweet and wonderful man who is human.

Are these fan girls that are dropping him because of this going to tell me that they arnt or haven't gone on dates?? Yeah and I think not
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