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bianca
Im gonna copy jennas privacy thread to here as is seems to be needed right now.

Please read the following before posting


QUOTE (Jenna @ Apr 19 2008, 03:21 PM) *
Dearest Word Nerds,

I have been in contact with the Cook Family and they have requested that we keep our conversations focused on David, his music and his journey as a whole before, during and after American Idol. Since that's really what this forum is for, I told them I would do what I could to help.

Although the attempted fundraisers and all other efforts to support Adam Cook are very much appreciated, the very best thing and the only thing that we should be doing for the family is keeping them in our thoughts and prayers.

The local & national news, internet, print and most every other form of media will do anything for a good story, especially one that can be potentially heart-wrenching and that alone is enough to have to deal with on a daily basis. Our job as loyal Word Nerds is to keep David as the Idol front-runner, get him to win, then buy every piece of merchandise with is name/intials/photo/music on it... tongue.gif not to exploit or continue to discuss his personal/family life, let's leave that to the trashy tabloid reporters.

The point of this is not to harp on anyone here, but more-so to give a heads-up that any future threads and/or posts may be removed if they are considered to be overly-invasive of the privacy of anyone in the Cook Family. Several threads have already been removed entirely and several individual posts have been also, if your posts or threads have been deleted, please understand that it is not personal. I am only doing what I can to try to oblige them in their desperate attempt to maintain some sort of privacy.

The same goes for who David is dating, his vices, habits, religious preferences etc. Basically anything that hasn't been disclosed in a public statement by himself or the family would be, I feel, considered "private." As far as news articles, TV stations, etc., let's leave them in the magazines and on the TV (or YouTube).

David's got some of the best fans in the world on this site, but in order to remain some of the best fans, let's raise the bar shall we? Let's not only be the best, but the classiest and most respectful.

Thank you very much for understanding!





QUOTE (Jenna @ Apr 24 2008, 08:12 PM) *
I received an email regarding this thread today and the individual raised some interesting points, I wanted to share them with the board to make sure we're all on the same page.

In reference to this:




A snippet of the email received: I just was mainly referring to the request not to talk about things he likes/dislikes, habits, dating, etc....part of how you develop your fanbase is for them to get to know you a little because there are a million voices out there and unless they have a little more to go on, they are gonna drop him like yesterday's news if they start to feel like he is to stuck up to let his fans know him a little and from what I know and other people have said that are very close to him around here, he isn't like that at all and was always very open with his fans. I think David is very talented and just want him to go far, which he will, I just don't want people to get the wrong idea about him and think he is gonna expect to be different from any other star!!


The individual who wrote me is 100% correct in that David is the kind of guy who loves his fanbase, if he had all the time and availability in the world, he would sit down with each and every one of you and have a chat. He is everything that you see on American Idol, charismatic, sincere, fun-loving, spirited, a natural leader (or Big Brother type), this list of adjectives could go on and on....By no means was I intending to represent David as "stuck up", the words in this post were not his, they were mine via request by the family. I don't want to make anyone feel like they are being mothered, I did, however, want to make a point that things such as old xanga blogs, speculation on religious preferences, vices/habits are in fact very personal and would be best left not discussed. I feel that respect for someone's private life should be universal, whether it's Brad Pitt, David Cook or Joe Schmo who lives next door. My efforts in posting this are solely based on getting everyone to focus on David's musical career, not his personal life. The music is why we love him (among other reasons/attributes as notated by several of you throughout the forums) wink.gif and that is the most important thing.

If there was any confusion before, I hope that everyone now understands why I posted what I did. I too think that David is very talented and also want him to go far, he's already come a long way from serenading friends in dorm rooms.

Thanks all.

dcpkfan
I Agree 100%
He is a human for Gods sake !!!! give him the privacy he deserves and needs!
Cookieschick
sounds fair and good to me!
DavidCookFan01
QUOTE (bianca @ May 27 2008, 03:53 AM) *
Im gonna copy jennas privacy thread to here as is seems to be needed right now.

Please read the following before posting


I totally agree 100% that we should just focus on David Cook's music career. Thanks for posting this for all of us Word Nerds on this site! Christina

baybieap
Completely fair, agree 100%!
amor825
While I somewhat agree with the general idea to let David live his private life privately, it seems to me that it should not take somebody, who appers to represent the Cook family, to remind people to be decent. And as for the person who says that she has communication with the Cook family, anybody can just claim that. I notice that there are people who claim to know one celebrity, and then offer some juicy tidbits about the celebrity to prove the relationship, and when they are asked details about the life of the celebrity, they back out saying that the celebrity should be left alone, when it was this person who in the first place whetted the appetite of the rest. Maybe they offer the info so they can feel superior to the rest of us... I am not saying that this is the case with this person here. But I find it somewhat derogatory to be told to stay off of David's private life.

Really we don't have to be told that. But on the other hand, people are entitled to their imaginings. As long as they know nothing will come of it.

This is just an opinion. After all we all live in a democracy.

I hope I don't lose my posting privileges after this post. After all I like this site;I am a real fan of David Cook; and I respect his privacy.

But if ever someone takes that privilege from me, please be kind enough to email me at my email add. Thanks.

I LOVE DAVID COOK!!!
Jenna
QUOTE (amor825 @ May 28 2008, 05:33 AM) *
While I somewhat agree with the general idea to let David live his private life privately, it seems to me that it should not take somebody, who appers to represent the Cook family, to remind people to be decent. And as for the person who says that she has communication with the Cook family, anybody can just claim that. I notice that there are people who claim to know one celebrity, and then offer some juicy tidbits about the celebrity to prove the relationship, and when they are asked details about the life of the celebrity, they back out saying that the celebrity should be left alone, when it was this person who in the first place whetted the appetite of the rest. Maybe they offer the info so they can feel superior to the rest of us... I am not saying that this is the case with this person here. But I find it somewhat derogatory to be told to stay off of David's private life.

Really we don't have to be told that. But on the other hand, people are entitled to their imaginings. As long as they know nothing will come of it.

This is just an opinion. After all we all live in a democracy.

I hope I don't lose my posting privileges after this post. After all I like this site;I am a real fan of David Cook; and I respect his privacy.

But if ever someone takes that privilege from me, please be kind enough to email me at my email add. Thanks.

I LOVE DAVID COOK!!!



Thank you for your opinion, amor825. While I understand your skepticism about my relationship with David and his family, let me set you straight. David and I have been life-long friends since the age of 11. I am in contact with David and his family on a weekly basis. If you find it derogatory to "be told to stay off of David's private life," I'll be sure to tell him, however I am pretty confident that he will maintain that he wishes for the respect of his privacy. If you are seeking "juicy tidbits" to prove my relationship with David, you will get none from me. I feel like that would be definitive of irony.

Thank you for your lasting support of David and his music and thank you in advance for respecting not only his family's wishes but his as well.
velvetsun
I agree 100% with this.
I'm glad i wasn't going crazy a few days ago when i brought up the issue regarding David's personal life. I'm all for giving him 100% of our support, and allowing certain things to remain private. smile.gif
CookFan123
QUOTE (amor825 @ May 28 2008, 02:33 AM) *
While I somewhat agree with the general idea to let David live his private life privately, it seems to me that it should not take somebody, who appers to represent the Cook family, to remind people to be decent. And as for the person who says that she has communication with the Cook family, anybody can just claim that. I notice that there are people who claim to know one celebrity, and then offer some juicy tidbits about the celebrity to prove the relationship, and when they are asked details about the life of the celebrity, they back out saying that the celebrity should be left alone, when it was this person who in the first place whetted the appetite of the rest. Maybe they offer the info so they can feel superior to the rest of us... I am not saying that this is the case with this person here. But I find it somewhat derogatory to be told to stay off of David's private life.

Really we don't have to be told that. But on the other hand, people are entitled to their imaginings. As long as they know nothing will come of it.

This is just an opinion. After all we all live in a democracy.

I hope I don't lose my posting privileges after this post. After all I like this site;I am a real fan of David Cook; and I respect his privacy.

But if ever someone takes that privilege from me, please be kind enough to email me at my email add. Thanks.

I LOVE DAVID COOK!!!


Calling out Jenna has to be one of the most tactless acts one can perform and still consider themselves a David Cook fan... I guess second only to calling out a Cook family member or David Cook himself.


If I were you I would seriously rethink what I posted and decide what type of fan I wanted to be. If you listen to Jenna you'll know what type of fan David would like you to be.
DavidCookFan01
I have been giving David Cook my 1,000% support from day one, and yes I will always support David Cook no matter what happens to him. I just wished that the media would leave David Cook alone. Now, I am focusing my energy on David Cook's music career after winning AI and the upcoming Idols Tour Concert this summer. Christina
annie702
QUOTE (amor825 @ May 28 2008, 02:33 AM) *
While I somewhat agree with the general idea to let David live his private life privately, it seems to me that it should not take somebody, who appers to represent the Cook family, to remind people to be decent. And as for the person who says that she has communication with the Cook family, anybody can just claim that. I notice that there are people who claim to know one celebrity, and then offer some juicy tidbits about the celebrity to prove the relationship, and when they are asked details about the life of the celebrity, they back out saying that the celebrity should be left alone, when it was this person who in the first place whetted the appetite of the rest. Maybe they offer the info so they can feel superior to the rest of us... I am not saying that this is the case with this person here. But I find it somewhat derogatory to be told to stay off of David's private life.

Really we don't have to be told that. But on the other hand, people are entitled to their imaginings. As long as they know nothing will come of it.

This is just an opinion. After all we all live in a democracy.

I hope I don't lose my posting privileges after this post. After all I like this site;I am a real fan of David Cook; and I respect his privacy.

But if ever someone takes that privilege from me, please be kind enough to email me at my email add. Thanks.

I LOVE DAVID COOK!!!


Since Jenna herself has already replied to this one, the only thing that I can add is my attestation that Jenna has never posted any "juicy tidbits" since I've been on this site.

BTW...have you guys seen this: http://www.david-cook.org/index.php?showto...mp;#entry105138 wink.gif
anii
My 2 cents:

People ought to be free to express their opinions without their loyalty to this or that person being called into question.

I agree that it's a good idea to respect DC and his family, and that the forum owner has the right to run this forum any way he/she likes.

That said, I believe it's also a good idea to continue to respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, inlcuding Freedom of Expression. In the words of Noam Chomsky:

QUOTE
Noam Chomsky states that:

"If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. Goebbels was in favor of freedom of speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise."


More here in wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_expression

My worry is that several of the limitations that have already been placed on our speech here seem a little excessive, esp. quoting news articles? While I certainly respect DC's family's right to privacy (they didn't choose to participate in a public arena, e.g., American Idol), I don't think there's anything wrong with speculating about DC himself, in any or all areas of his life, as he himself signed up for a public program, including the attention that goes along with it. That would seem to be one of the reasons for this forum to exist in the first place.

Having lost a parent to cancer at an early age, my heart - and respect for privacy - goes out to his family.

However, from what I've seen so far of Mr. Cook himself, he seems like the kind of guy who'd want to defend my right to free speech, even if he disagreed with what I was saying. Of course, that's just speculation on my part.

That's all I have to say about this thread.
d.c.ftw
Thank you anii for your opinions, however... I am sure you are familiar with the saying, "When in Rome..."

This is travis's house and he set the rules based on the family's wishes. I'm hoping that those rules and wishes can be respected and followed. And since it has been stated over and over that those are the rules, there really shouldn't be any more discussion on this issue. I've been to boards that don't have rules...and admin 1 now that does. And truth be told..the one with rules is still going strong and thriving whereas the others have folded years ago.

I do hope you enjoy your stay here smile.gif
davidisdevine
Jenna,
In the words of him I know to be your life-long friend, please take this opportunity to just exhale right now.

It has been a fabulous day with historical Billboard success, and a record-breaking record deal, and 90% of us get exactly what you are saying.

Please don't get frustrated or think what you do is not appreciated by most of us. You already know how David and the family regard you and your efforts here. Some people just have to squabble and nit pick and quote obscure sources to justify their attendance at these forums. It isn't enough to just have fun anymore.

You can rest assured that from a legal standpoint, however, this forum is not a democratic republic and you can make whatever rules you see fit on here and enforce them to their fullest extent. Many people like to impose 1st amendment privilege on private venues, but it won't stick. The irony they fail to see is that LIMITING speech is a form of freedom of speech, granted to us by the 1st amendment. The fact that a private enterprise can still control the content of its codes, and communications without government interference is directly a function of the 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech.

The concept of limiting speech being a function of freedom of speech can be hard for people to grasp. When you get a chance, please ask David if he "gets" it, LOL! I am sure he would just LOVE to talk about all that right about now.

Take care, hang in there, you are the bomb to me,
Laura
StephyDee
QUOTE (davidisdevine @ May 28 2008, 05:53 PM) *
Jenna,
In the words of him I know to be your life-long friend, please take this opportunity to just exhale right now.

It has been a fabulous day with historical Billboard success, and a record-breaking record deal, and 90% of us get exactly what you are saying.

Please don't get frustrated or think what you do is not appreciated by most of us. You already know how David and the family regard you and your efforts here. Some people just have to squabble and nit pick and quote obscure sources to justify their attendance at these forums. It isn't enough to just have fun anymore.

You can rest assured that from a legal standpoint, however, this forum is not a democratic republic and you can make whatever rules you see fit on here and enforce them to their fullest extent. Many people like to impose 1st amendment privilege on private venues, but it won't stick. The irony they fail to see is that LIMITING speech is a form of freedom of speech, granted to us by the 1st amendment. The fact that a private enterprise can still control the content of its codes, and communications without government interference is directly a function of the 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech.

The concept of limiting speech being a function of freedom of speech can be hard for people to grasp. When you get a chance, please ask David if he "gets" it, LOL! I am sure he would just LOVE to talk about all that right about now.

Take care, hang in there, you are the bomb to me,
Laura


Perfectly stated, Laura.....I second all of that...

Yeah, just to reinstate what Laura said...I really feel for you Jenna, and David, plus his friends and family. All this chaos right now, it's suffocating, I can tell...but the overwhelming majority of us fans aren't the ones going nutzo (a word I've been using a lot lately, ironically enough) and trying to bring the community down. It's those rotten tomatoes that are taking the liberty to throw themselves to the people on the stage, meaning the fans and David himself. I know, what a weird visual, but it makes sense.....they're only hurting themselves when they do things like this, but yet they continue to do it, because it's showing their 'significance' to others, whether it's good or bad...

So, in closing, I hope you don't feel that all of us are converting into the crazies....because that's simply not true....us loyal fans are staying in this sanity....and we plan on it for the rest of our lives smile.gif
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