When I first read that Cook asked Caldwell for a date, I thought, perhaps, that he had bumped his head! I have to turn off Idol Watch every time I see her trying to act cute or her unprofessional delivery. Very immature. But, she does wear those short, low cut outfits and he's only a man, SOOOOOOOOO. Don't know either of them, but he has the right to choose whomever.

Although this isn't the worst post I have seen regarding this topic, I'm going to go ahead and respond to it.

First and foremost, I have known David for fifteen years, he is one of the most genuine people that you will ever meet. When he is interested in a woman, it goes much further than her exterior appearance, he wouldn't give just any "pretty" girl his personal time, before or after Idol. After reading what Travis said about Kim and knowing David personally, I firmly believe that there is a connection there that goes much deeper than either of their exterior appearances. Not to mention, he has someone that can truely relate to his experiences over the past 8 months. Since he asked Kim to dinner, there has been an absolute explosion of explitive name calling, bashing and other petty jealous ranting that I have been severely disappointed in.

Once upon a time I had posted that David had some of the classiest fans around and was pleased to say that many of them were members here on this site. I'd like to be able to maintain the pride that I feel for our fellow Word Nerds, but I will admit that it has been difficult these last few days. I hope to see an improvement.

VERY well said!!!!!

I agree Jenna. Cookie seems happy and I think we should be happy for him. Just because they are dating now doesn't mean he's getting ready to get married. We don't know what the future holds for these two as far as that is concerned. He seemed really happy when he was asked about it and as long as he is happy, then that makes me happy. We might as well get used to the fact we will be seeing him with tons of women. I had another fan to tell some of us yesterday besides Travis what a nice person KC was who had met her personally. I can't say anything bad about her because naturally I don't know her.

I am here to support the man and his career. Whoever he chooses to date is his business.

Thank you for posting this, because it's exactly what I've been thinking. Though I don't know David or Kim personally, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head here. I hold no ground here considering how "new" I am to this whole thing, but I'm glad someone who's been around longer and knows more than most has stood up and said something. So again, thank you.

I'm just SICK of this honestly.

Jenna, I hope your opinion of all his fans isn't going down the drain.

There are those of us left who are here for the RIGHT REASONS. Which i've said before is his talent. Not his STATUS.

I dont understand why people can't give him some credit for being HONEST with us, I think that is so respectable.

I'll admitt i took it hard , but It's not liek he's getting married tommrow and im sure she wont be the last person he dates but sicne he's happy , im happy

I truly hope that we don't have to go through this every time DC talks to a girl. This is a great site and the catty behavior is really bothering me. There's nothing hard to take...bashing who he choses to spend time with is tantamount to bashing him...and Cook bashing makes me go grrrrr.


There's an entire thread on here about fantasies with DC. I'll share mine: perhaps he actually reads what we write about him here every so often. That fantasy will never come true if we're posting nasty things about people he (possibly) likes. Also, the mods are really into keeping certain things private for him...if we continue to waste their time with cattiness we may actually lose this site.

Okay, this is my first post but I just have to agree with Jenna. Why is who David dates any of our business? Gosh, I am just appalled at the name calling and stuff I have seen here and on other sites. In fact, I have kept quiet because I just didn't want to be a part of it. But by keeping quiet I realized that I was probably not doing my part as a fan. He is talented, creative and yes, good looking. He has just gone through one of the most stressful and overwhelming 8 months of life. The man needs to blow off some steam. Let him enjoy his win and this time in his life. He SOOOOO deserves it after all the joy and amazing songs he has given us.

Isn't that topic getting way too old already?

As per said before, it isn't any of our business who David is seeing. As long as he's happy, we ought to be happy for him. Besides, he asked Kim out openly, hence I do not see why both should be getting flak for being very open about it. It's not like they are doing it secretly.

Jenna, don't lose heart. The majority of us fans here in this board are classy - it's a handful of bad eggs out here who keep trying to tarnish this good reputation that has been built up painstakingly.

OMG I am sick to death of this! WHO FRICKIN CARES WHO HE IS DATING!

Please don't think all of his fans or for that matter, most of his fans are like this. I liked David when I thought he was a cute nerd with a killer voice. Long before the hotness makeover. If he looked like Simon Cowell's nipple I'd still be a fan. His voice and his talent for arrangements and lyrics are what make me a fan.

I do feel sorry for Kim - she seems to have become number one on the hitlist just because she likes David and he likes her.

It is natural for fans to do this (especially girls - sometime we can be so mean!) but you should think it and certainly not write it down - you never know who's reading these things. If you were her and reading horrible comments from people who don't you, you would be very hurt.

I am sure everyone wants to imagine that they'll meet him and get on well, go out, get married etc but in reality that's not going to happen. Let David choose who he wants to spend his time with. He's going to be very busy over the coming months so i'm sure he wants to share his free time with someone that he gets on well with. On the video that has been posted showing them coming out the restaurant, Kim did nothing to take any attention away from David and only said thanks once someone said they looked good together - which i think shows she knows he's the one in demand and the one with the public interest.

We shouldn't judge her or him - we're fans because of the way he sings not his looks although that does help . David also seems to have a good family and friends so i'm sure they'll keep his feet firmly on the ground and not let him get caught up in the 'celebrity lifestyle' which some fans are worried about. Remember its all about the music!

i understand your reaction to kim and dave.... and i took it pretty hard as well. but now i realize that i am a DC fan, and to be a loyal fan, i must respect him, and care about his happiness. and i do.

we want david to be happy, and if kim adds to that happiness, then im happy. cuz if DC's happy, im happy . dont worry, i took it pretty hard too.... (but i never bashed kim...but im not saying u did either...im just saying....LOL u know what i mean). i actually cried for a bit, but now i think im so stupid for doing that.

just calm down... and im not saying this because i want to hurt you..but: this isnt really about you or me or our feelings...its about DAVID COOK. and he's happy now. and thats what its all about..so yeahh..

hmm...i don't see this as his being honest with *us*...he is just talking about his life now and he does
not owe any one of his fans..ANYthing as far as his private or professional life goes....i doubt and sure hope he did NOT think...ooo i had better
tell everyone what i am doing because i owe it to them.....he owes nothing...we CHOOSE to become fans
and if we expect anything but good music from him then we are not really being very 'good' fans at all...

Jenna,
I am so tired of this, too. I am also worried that David may EVER see any of this on here and decide that all of us are like these vociferous bashers. I hope you will speak up for the majority of us if he does sneak a peek and gets disgusted.

Can't you PLEASE delete the bashing threads before they take on a life of their own?

Maybe fans who are that interested in sticking their noses in where they don't belong would then go to a site where that is encouraged.

Sorry for being so un-American and anti-freedom of speech and all. I hope I don't get banned. That would be woefully ironic.
Laura

Girls, can we just pretending this is never happen? i enjoy having him single in my mind, so...

Btw, thx Jenna!

~Gee~

Jenna, this saddens me as well. Whatever he does during the hours that he is not performing or doing something that has to do with entertainment is, IMO, his business and we need to keep it off limits to us. He is not going to enjoy this developing career if every move he makes is scrutinized and critiqued. I can't imagine what he would think should he run across those posts that spoke ill of someone he clearly likes. I know that I wouldn't like it. I would find it hurtful to think that a friend of mine would be talked about in any way that wasn't respectful. To me, there are boundaries that shouldn't be crossed and that is certainly one of them.

I have enjoyed this site as well because of the intelligent, witty fans that post here. This idea that he is somehow now the property of his fans is off the mark, IMO. I realize that it isn't the opinion of the entire group, but, for some reason, it is a topic that is standing out much more than the other topics and, to me, it just reflects jealousy and it isn't pretty. We are here to show our support of what he wants to do with his music, aren't we? I keep thinking about what he wants out of all this. Since he has made the comment that he does break down and read this stuff, I try to post as if he will be reading what I type.

Jeannine

Thank you for posting this, Jenna. I'd like to see this site remain a positive place. I'm really happy that
someone who knows David is here, and I hope you stick around. David seems like a very mature guy to
me and I think everyone should respect his choices. People can choose not to like her privately, but I
hope everyone can emulate David and keep this site a classy place that he could visit and not be offended by.

Absolutely agree 100% with Jenna, David can date whoever he so chooses, and from the mature, intelligent bloke he comes across as I'm sure his considerations for dating this lady run a bit deeper then the length of her skirt. Sadly this happens in every fandom, as a huge Jake Gyllenhaal fan I couldn't believe the abuse Reese W came in for from a small section of so called 'fans'.

Please, can't we just drop this subject, once and for all.
For everybodys sake. Please.

What, this again? What David does in his personal life is none of our business, and if there are so-called "fans" of his who are getting their knickers in a bunch because he's been seen with Kimberly Caldwell and calling her all sorts of nasty names, they are not true fans.

Real Word Nerds love David because of the beautiful gift of his that he shared with us on national TV and continues to share with us. Real Word Nerds want David to be happy in whatever he chooses to do.

Can please we just give this a rest already? I would like to think that I am in good company with all the wonderful Word Nerds here; I used to want to be a Claymate back when Clay came in second, but the group's "overzealousness," shall we say, really put me off the whole thing, which is okay, because I now kind of perceive the term "Claymate" as a bit of an insult almost. I certainly don't want the Word Nerds to be similarly regarded. We've been more or less good girls and boys so far; can we keep on being that way?

Jenna,
Thank you for saying what so many of us who are true fans of David's music think. Who David choses to spend his time with is really none of our business. He has been gracious enough to let us in on what should be a private thing and it is a shame that a few fans are acting like children and not realizing that David is a human being who deserves the RIGHT to date whomever he choses. It doesn't matter why he is attracted to someone, whether it be because he thinks she "hot" or because he found something in common with her (idol) it is none of our business. PERIOD. Unfortunatly David has probably learned a very valuable lesson about being a celebrity. We are all very grateful that he feels comfortable in sharing with us and hope that he continues. Remeber people, the only thing that david owes us is good music! Nothing more.
I for one am thrilled that David has such good friends around him, such a yourself and Travis who look out for his well-being. So just in case David hasn't said, I will say THANKS Jenna and Travis! You rock!

Jenna, this is exactly how I've been feeling the past few days as well. It's the reason I needed to take a step back. I thought last night that I was going to need a few days, but after reading your comments, and that you're sharing in the same sentiment, I think I'll be ok. I'm glad I'm not the only one questioning the site.

~Steph

I for one KNOW he doesnt owe us anything.
I really hope you didn't take what I said in the wrong way.
If I made it sound like i felt that way, I apologize.
Because I definately don't.

Thank you Jenna! I don't "know" David but I think it's safe to say he would be disappointed in the way his fans are acting. I for one have just tried to stay away from anything and everything that says David and Kim or DC and KC or anything similar because it's just plain painful for me. I can't comprehend people hating on someone so much who they don't even know. I know neither of them and I wish them both the best. He could be dating 20 women at once and that would not change the fact that I LOVE him for his talent--his voice, his music, his kickass guitar skills and just his all around personality. Now I am done with this again....*tries to avoid the trash talk threads* What amazes me even more is people who are old enough to be his mom trash talking these two people. I mean come on...at their age they should fully understand the definition of respect and I would hope that once you are a high school graduate you know how to show respect. I wish people would think about the disrespect they are showing him by acting like a 3 year old who just had their favorite toy taken away from them.

Jenna,

I understand exactly where you're coming from. Actually, the only reason I opened this is because it was "pinned" and took that to mean a moderator was taking action. It's old, it's embarassing, it's none of our business.

I can only hope that one (or a few) bad apples don't spoil the David Cook experience for all of us, or leave you with a generalized bad impression.

Spot on. My thoughts exactly.

Actually, I'm so much into the man and the music and care so little about his personal life - that this is the first I've heard he's dating anyone. And I must say - whatever makes him happy, makes me happy. A happy David could only mean good things to his fans as far as his work is concerned. None of us are ever going to get married and have lots of babies with him anyway so why not leave his personal life be and stop obsessing over it?

*stands up and applauds* I love the parallel you've drawn between the older fans who have been acting shamefully about this whole thing, and little children; because like little children is exactly how they are acting.

WHAT??? You mean I am not going to marry him and have his babies? NOW you tell me. I hope the BBQ place lets me cancel the reservation for the reception and gives me my deposit back in full. *walks off grumbling, "I could have sworn I wasn't hallucinating it all this time."*

Lmfao! Well I had to cancel a Rabbi and a hall and tell my grandma she won't be having great-grandkids soon after all. She was quite gutted. My younger sister is still going to marry Archie, so it'll work itself out, I guess.

*spits Diet Pepsi on the monitor*

Ah, hell! That was funny!!!

I have an idea. How about we stop with the drama about David's personal life and start a new drama about your choice of soft drinks? Coca Cola (not diet, not zero, real pure poison only) rules this earth, and Pepsi sucks.

HOW DARE YOU BASH PEPSI. Pepsi makes you sexy...if you had any taste in sodas you would agree with me. Coke is trashy and a sell out (but that coke zero is mighty cute).

What's the point of coca cola if it lacks any of the fun stuff in it that make it such an excellent cleaning product for your toilet? Zero and diet sucks. Pepsi sucks more *gets claws out and gets ready for catfight*

Ok, I will tell everyone what I think will happen if we don't leave David and his personal life alone..I have very dear friends that are in the spotlight and they are very genuine people just like David appears to be..
By everyone always bashing him and his life will only eventually push him away and WE don't want that...

I am not saying FOR SURE that will happen but he is human just like us so lets try and be in his shoes..We would not feel as comfortable as we would really like to be and would probably withdraw to a degree.

We are all so fortunate to have a TRULY NICE GUY in our lives so lets support him in EVERY way....

It is all about the MUSIC....

No offense Jenna - it was well said - but can we delete this thread too? It just rehashes it all - particularly when the board was just getting back to normal.

Carolyn

Sorry editing here - but what I am trying to say is that when these topics are pinned it is the first thing you see when checking the posts.

I agree obviously it crushes my hope a little lol but honestly I never had a chance with a gorgeous superstar 10 years older than me. Haha but yeah if he's happy that's all that really matters ;]

er hello?? he was all set to marry me!
no but seriously jealousy aside, he has admitted he has occasionally slipped and looked on message boards, if he read stuff against her, he wouldn't like it and he wouldn't like us and that would make me very sad.

I need to weigh in on this -

he asked her to dinner - Everyone has to eat. it's not like they're walking down the isle - He'll most likely be having dinner with lots of people.

Since he just got out of the AI Box that he's been couped up in for months. And hasn't had much of any female companionship Good for him he has a date

We don't know how it came about with him asking her for dinner - I look at it as though it's dinner & if he scores - That's his dessert.. if they hook up again - well OK so - good for them - All I know is everyone needs a little sometimes


whether he digs her as a friend, or he's just having dinner and may like to get to know her better, which can be for many reasons big deal -

He should have dinner with any and many females -

exactly...and in my little fantasy world, dc reads my posts . but i'm also worried about the site b/c of all the extra work that this bashing creates for the mods. i'd rather have travis spend his time finding cool multimedia than having to address bashing stickies.

Although I agree with all of you about loving DC for his talent, and who he is, he unfortunately made this everyone's business by asking her out on camera. Oops!
He learned a valuable lesson, I think. Now that the world is watching him, he needs to be more private with his private life. The poor guy has already had to answer questions about KC on national TV, and he's just started dating her. Hope he is enjoying the little bit of downtime left to him before the tour starts!

*sigh*

I honestly am tired of seeing my Inbox full EVERY SINGLE DAY of reports from members, telling me there is yet ANOTHER Kim/DC thread.....don't get me wrong, those of you who are reporting, thank you....you're doing nothing wrong whatsoever....it's the fact that there are SO many threads about this topic....I mean, c'mon! I hardly ever truly get mad, but this is firing me up, people.....this has got to stop....Cook fans are known for being some of the best fans around, and this is tarnishing that image....going nutzo and spiteful over who David wants to be in a relationship with is immature, stupid, and overall WRONG...now, if you MUST vent about David's status, then please...do it on your own time...not here. Those of us who have been here care about both his music and his general well-being....not who he wants to spend his time with. Going insane about this will easily make us lose our credibility and reduce us to another teenie-crazed fansite that has no significance whatsoever...to let a good thing like this site reach that low is a crime against nature....

So, in closing, I just want to say this to whoever is worked up over those two dating....

STOP GOING NUTZO AND RESPECT HIS WISHES! AND STOP MAKING THREADS ABOUT THE SAME DAMN THING! IT'LL GET OLD REALLY FAST! GAH!

I'm certain that I speak for all the mods and Travis when I say that, we're tired of dealing with this....can't we just let it go and concentrate on the important things? What is that you say? Hmmmm, lemme think....oh wait, I know....HIS MUSIC! HIS CAREER! HIS FUTURE!

That's what is more important here....

THANK YOU! My thoughts exactly!

All of this speculation is taking away from David's time of his life! We should be discussing his career, not who he is dating.

I'm tired of reading incessantly about the dating............it has run me away from the AI boards. The mods here have been great about it. He deserves to be happy; he has certainly made me happy with his music and kindnesses. Whoever he gives his heart to will be very lucky and better treat him right! JMHO

His "thank you" video yesterday made me cry. He is a beautiful soul and we, his fans, should be ecstatic that he wants to share so much with us...........but let him have some privacy!!

Thank you Jenna for sharing your insight into this beautiful man.

Gotta admit, I was a little bummed when I saw that he was dating, but I mean that's not really why we're here. We all love David for who he is...an amazing person with a great personality and voice that makes your heart skip a beat and it doesn't matter who he's dating. As long as he's happy that's all that matters.
And even if he wasn't dating Kimberly, he'd be dating someone else so....

Hmmmm...I actually have some diverging thoughts on this than the rest of you. I haven't posted on "Kim-gate", 'cause I haven't felt the need, but I think telling people they absolutely can't talk about something that David alerted us to himself by asking her out on national television, is a little counter-productive. I agree that name-calling should not be acceptable, but this is going to continue to be part of the process of David's development, and let's face it, his sex appeal is a huge part of his success. He obviously has a great talent, wonderful personality, etc., but 90% of his fans are women. And women want to know things, and get to know people. We want to know if the David we saw on the show is the real David. We want to know what type of girl he likes. We want to feel his pain when he talks about losing love, finding it, etc. And not knowing anything beyond scripted TV interviews is not going to help with his success. I guarantee it. Fans seek a connection to performers--an emotional connection.

This doesn't mean that I don't think David is entitled to some privacy or that he can't do whatever the hell he likes with whomever the hell he wants to do it with (and likewise I am entitled to have my own opinions about that, silent as they may be). But, mods, I think perhaps you need to remember that we don't know David, and the only way to get to know him is to go beyond the performances and interviews, and try and decipher the man underneath. Hopefully that can happen with a modicum of class, but I don't think people really mean any harm when talking about this stuff--we are all just experiencing some growing pains and some cognitive dissonance now that the show is over and he is no longer "ours."

NO! not at all...was just speaking generally and trying to emphasize that he owes no one
an explanation for anything he does....it really starts to sound like some 'fans' want "OWNERSHIP" and
that is certainly not a caring concept...if you voted for david you did so because you wanted to
he did not ask anyone to nor have any expectations and certainly no obligations to us...WE got the
enjoyment of his performances....
i think maybe 'we' ( not you personally) are taking
this all too seriously and giving ourselves as 'fans'...WAY too much power....it doesn't matter that david
asked kim out on tv...lots of celebrities say things on tv..they announce marriages and pregnancies..
does that mean we get to name the baby???? they say things about their lives casually....asking kim
out on tv does NOT make it our business at all..in my opinion....if he expresses an opinion about
politics his beliefs, etc...does that mean he has to agree with each of us?
whether he asked kim out privately or not- we would know about it eventually so what difference does
it make? he is a person like the rest of us and from what i know of david i think that is how he would want
be treated...like a regular person...but with the respect i know he would have for each of us, as well.

Well-said, Jenna! Couldn't agree more!

Now, about the tour . . . how do we convince the producers to give David more than 5 songs? (turning the conversation back to the music.........)

I agree with you Jenna!

Well i have to say (and i hope i don't get banned for it) but i don't like the girl, i didn't like her before she started dating David and I'm not planning on like her just because now she's dating him.
But... I'm really sick of the fangirls always bashing her just because she's dating Cookie. What I'm trying to say, is that David has the right to make a life, and do whatever he wants to do.
Just because we're fans that doesn't give us the right to judge him for his choices.

I am with you, mljbray! That is the smartest statement that I have read yet concerning this Kim-David issue. Why growl when you can howl (with delight for our new American Idol).

Call me weird or wired or whatever, but the fact that he is dating makes him even more hot and sexy to me. The man is only doing what comes natural. Dating! A whole lot more fun than sitting home watching the grass grow or paint dry. I hope that he has a ball during his down time. David is a hard worker musically and he deserves to relax on his own terms. Like I said in another thread over yonder somewhere, David is going to have a life outside of work. He is going to date, know love, marry this love, and probably make little David's and Davida's with some lucky woman. It would be great if his fans shared in his happiness instead of resenting his happiness. It would make for a more content and less hostile fandom experience.

Being a fan can be a lot of fun, I think, if the focus is kept on David and his fan relationship with us. I am impressed as hell that he WANTS to establish a relationship with his fans. Some celebrities treat their fans like they have ebola. So, I believe that we have been blessed because David has been discovered. If it were a different place in time, we may not have David. He might be still be tending bar somewhere. But, everything fell into place and he is now part of our world. I don't know about anyone else, but when I count my blessings I count Cookie twice. He has brought music back into my life. Therefore, all is good!

Also, Jenna...thank you for you wonderful and insightful post. Amen, girl