Full Version: Since We Have So Many Questions About a Single...
Maybe we should as fans email the record company and ask for what is happening with the single, and the Cd. Is this a bad idea?
PLEASE DON'T. LET IT RUN IT'S PROCESS.
QUOTE (Cooked by Cook @ Jul 11 2008, 11:33 PM) 
Maybe we should as fans email the record company and ask for what is happening with the single, and the Cd. Is this a bad idea?
In one word...YES! This could end up hurting David and backfiring. The record company won't appreciate it that's for sure. lol It's best we leave things alone and let the label do their job and not worry about it so much. I think if the single was close to be ready to be released we would be hearing something so obviously David isn't ready so I don't think it's anything to panic about at this point.
The date he had given sometime back was late September and that's if everything was going well with the writing and recording process and they are just now talking about finishing up with that part and start recording.
I'm not so sure it is, but I'd like to point out something here.
Two days after the finale a music blog posted that Archie would have a single out this summer by Jive. This was before anybody was signed. I think this is probably 19's way of giving Archie his single. I seriously doubt the album is anywhere close to done.
I also think we got the press we got yesterday for a reason. TPTB knew this news was coming so they were sure to put out some good press about Cook's album and endorsement deal while they could.
Also, when I Google RCA, guess whose picture comes up on the front page?
That's right. TOML is the featured release and Cookie's picture is right up there.
I find it hard to believe that RCA is not taking care of him.
The information is easy to find on their website if anyone feels the need to do this. I am somewhere in the middle on all of this: wanting not to panic, but disturbed about several things and wanting some reassurance.
Two days after the finale a music blog posted that Archie would have a single out this summer by Jive. This was before anybody was signed. I think this is probably 19's way of giving Archie his single. I seriously doubt the album is anywhere close to done.
I also think we got the press we got yesterday for a reason. TPTB knew this news was coming so they were sure to put out some good press about Cook's album and endorsement deal while they could.
Also, when I Google RCA, guess whose picture comes up on the front page?
That's right. TOML is the featured release and Cookie's picture is right up there.
I find it hard to believe that RCA is not taking care of him.
The information is easy to find on their website if anyone feels the need to do this. I am somewhere in the middle on all of this: wanting not to panic, but disturbed about several things and wanting some reassurance.
Of course RCA is taking care of David and David being featured on the RCA Website has been there for at least 2 weeks now.
I think we are doing a lot of speculating right now and we need to let everything work through the process.
I think we are doing a lot of speculating right now and we need to let everything work through the process.
QUOTE (annette @ Jul 11 2008, 11:57 PM)
Of course RCA is taking care of David and David being featured on the RCA Website has been there for at least 2 weeks now.
I think we are doing a lot of speculating right now and we need to let everything work through the process.
I think we are doing a lot of speculating right now and we need to let everything work through the process.
AGREE TOTALLY Annette!
QUOTE (annette @ Jul 11 2008, 11:57 PM)
Of course RCA is taking care of David and David being featured on the RCA Website has been there for at least 2 weeks now.
I think we are doing a lot of speculating right now and we need to let everything work through the process.
I think we are doing a lot of speculating right now and we need to let everything work through the process.
I completely agree! Stressing out and worrying is not healthy for anyone. When you focus on all of the positive things that have already happened and are currently happing for David now, it's hard to justify that there's much to worry about.
QUOTE (southpaw @ Jul 12 2008, 12:09 AM)
I completely agree! Stressing out and worrying is not healthy for anyone. When you focus on all of the positive things that have already happened and are currently happing for David now, it's hard to justify that there's much to worry about.
I couldn't agree more.
I may be concerned (Blake Lewis was on Arista's front page for quite some time as was Taylor as well) but I agree that contacting the label is a bad idea. Whatever is happening with the single and album is out of our hands and there is nothing we can do about it but wait, wait and wait some more. We are stuck with TOML.
And, just for clarification, I never said that RCA wasn't taking care of David (they obviously are or Z100 would never have touched something as cheesy as TOML). Hell, just last night, I had posted regarding the marvelous things that Cookie has been able to accomplish since his win in comparison to previous winners and finalists.
I am simply stating that, for all of the care that RCA is giving DC, there seems to be more care being given elsewhere right now. And, I'm sorry, and I hope my feelings are dead wrong, but the fact that the only winners who had to release their albums after others were Ruben and Taylor just gives me an awful feeling in the pit of my stomach when I think of Cookie having to release after both KLC and Archie. Yes, I know that the competition is over and they are all "on their own" now but winning should mean something. They certainly made sure that winning meant something last year. Jordin's first real single was released two months before Blake could release a single. Her album was released two weeks before his (would have been one week but his got pushed back due to illness, but, as the winner, she got to release first nonetheless). Now, this year, for reasons unbeknownst to any of us, winning doesn't matter and people can just release in whatever order they want. Maybe I'm wrong (I hope so) but it certainly does seem a little convenient when the two releasing before him either had previous Sony contracts or have had an "in" with TPTB for years.
I don't want to make anyone angry or upset. These things simply bother the hell out of me as a fan who voted for David Cook to be treated like the winner of the competition, not an also-ran when it comes to releasing music. I am not throwing in any towels or giving up hope (I agree as well that there is no cause for that). To use a traffic light analogy, yesterday (and, hell, since May 21) I was at green. Today, I am at yellow. But I am most definitely not at red. Now, if DC gets a kickass single released to radio and itunes in September with support equal to or greater than what he got for TOML and goes on to receive the coveted Thanksgiving week release date, I will go beyond green and bust the damn traffic light, ha! But....right now, yellow.
And, just for clarification, I never said that RCA wasn't taking care of David (they obviously are or Z100 would never have touched something as cheesy as TOML). Hell, just last night, I had posted regarding the marvelous things that Cookie has been able to accomplish since his win in comparison to previous winners and finalists.
I am simply stating that, for all of the care that RCA is giving DC, there seems to be more care being given elsewhere right now. And, I'm sorry, and I hope my feelings are dead wrong, but the fact that the only winners who had to release their albums after others were Ruben and Taylor just gives me an awful feeling in the pit of my stomach when I think of Cookie having to release after both KLC and Archie. Yes, I know that the competition is over and they are all "on their own" now but winning should mean something. They certainly made sure that winning meant something last year. Jordin's first real single was released two months before Blake could release a single. Her album was released two weeks before his (would have been one week but his got pushed back due to illness, but, as the winner, she got to release first nonetheless). Now, this year, for reasons unbeknownst to any of us, winning doesn't matter and people can just release in whatever order they want. Maybe I'm wrong (I hope so) but it certainly does seem a little convenient when the two releasing before him either had previous Sony contracts or have had an "in" with TPTB for years.
I don't want to make anyone angry or upset. These things simply bother the hell out of me as a fan who voted for David Cook to be treated like the winner of the competition, not an also-ran when it comes to releasing music. I am not throwing in any towels or giving up hope (I agree as well that there is no cause for that). To use a traffic light analogy, yesterday (and, hell, since May 21) I was at green. Today, I am at yellow. But I am most definitely not at red. Now, if DC gets a kickass single released to radio and itunes in September with support equal to or greater than what he got for TOML and goes on to receive the coveted Thanksgiving week release date, I will go beyond green and bust the damn traffic light, ha! But....right now, yellow.
QUOTE (slw321 @ Jul 12 2008, 01:32 AM)
I am simply stating that, for all of the care that RCA is giving DC, there seems to be more care being given elsewhere right now.
There is one important thing you forget
They seem to do the same thing with their album releases, but they are not the same.
Archie and KLC are singer, they record songs that other people write for them
David is a songwriter/ singer and that is longer prozess
I think if there is a reason for the delay it is this
QUOTE (Anijsch @ Jul 12 2008, 09:16 AM)
There is one important thing you forget
They seem to do the same thing with their album releases, but they are not the same.
Archie and KLC are singer, they record songs that other people write for them
David is a songwriter/ singer and that is longer prozess
I think if there is a reason for the delay it is this
They seem to do the same thing with their album releases, but they are not the same.
Archie and KLC are singer, they record songs that other people write for them
David is a songwriter/ singer and that is longer prozess
I think if there is a reason for the delay it is this
Anijsch - GOOD POINT!
QUOTE (slw321 @ Jul 12 2008, 04:32 AM)
I may be concerned (Blake Lewis was on Arista's front page for quite some time as was Taylor as well) but I agree that contacting the label is a bad idea. Whatever is happening with the single and album is out of our hands and there is nothing we can do about it but wait, wait and wait some more. We are stuck with TOML.
And, just for clarification, I never said that RCA wasn't taking care of David (they obviously are or Z100 would never have touched something as cheesy as TOML). Hell, just last night, I had posted regarding the marvelous things that Cookie has been able to accomplish since his win in comparison to previous winners and finalists.
I am simply stating that, for all of the care that RCA is giving DC, there seems to be more care being given elsewhere right now. And, I'm sorry, and I hope my feelings are dead wrong, but the fact that the only winners who had to release their albums after others were Ruben and Taylor just gives me an awful feeling in the pit of my stomach when I think of Cookie having to release after both KLC and Archie. Yes, I know that the competition is over and they are all "on their own" now but winning should mean something. They certainly made sure that winning meant something last year. Jordin's first real single was released two months before Blake could release a single. Her album was released two weeks before his (would have been one week but his got pushed back due to illness, but, as the winner, she got to release first nonetheless). Now, this year, for reasons unbeknownst to any of us, winning doesn't matter and people can just release in whatever order they want. Maybe I'm wrong (I hope so) but it certainly does seem a little convenient when the two releasing before him either had previous Sony contracts or have had an "in" with TPTB for years.
I don't want to make anyone angry or upset. These things simply bother the hell out of me as a fan who voted for David Cook to be treated like the winner of the competition, not an also-ran when it comes to releasing music. I am not throwing in any towels or giving up hope (I agree as well that there is no cause for that). To use a traffic light analogy, yesterday (and, hell, since May 21) I was at green. Today, I am at yellow. But I am most definitely not at red. Now, if DC gets a kickass single released to radio and itunes in September with support equal to or greater than what he got for TOML and goes on to receive the coveted Thanksgiving week release date, I will go beyond green and bust the damn traffic light, ha! But....right now, yellow.
And, just for clarification, I never said that RCA wasn't taking care of David (they obviously are or Z100 would never have touched something as cheesy as TOML). Hell, just last night, I had posted regarding the marvelous things that Cookie has been able to accomplish since his win in comparison to previous winners and finalists.
I am simply stating that, for all of the care that RCA is giving DC, there seems to be more care being given elsewhere right now. And, I'm sorry, and I hope my feelings are dead wrong, but the fact that the only winners who had to release their albums after others were Ruben and Taylor just gives me an awful feeling in the pit of my stomach when I think of Cookie having to release after both KLC and Archie. Yes, I know that the competition is over and they are all "on their own" now but winning should mean something. They certainly made sure that winning meant something last year. Jordin's first real single was released two months before Blake could release a single. Her album was released two weeks before his (would have been one week but his got pushed back due to illness, but, as the winner, she got to release first nonetheless). Now, this year, for reasons unbeknownst to any of us, winning doesn't matter and people can just release in whatever order they want. Maybe I'm wrong (I hope so) but it certainly does seem a little convenient when the two releasing before him either had previous Sony contracts or have had an "in" with TPTB for years.
I don't want to make anyone angry or upset. These things simply bother the hell out of me as a fan who voted for David Cook to be treated like the winner of the competition, not an also-ran when it comes to releasing music. I am not throwing in any towels or giving up hope (I agree as well that there is no cause for that). To use a traffic light analogy, yesterday (and, hell, since May 21) I was at green. Today, I am at yellow. But I am most definitely not at red. Now, if DC gets a kickass single released to radio and itunes in September with support equal to or greater than what he got for TOML and goes on to receive the coveted Thanksgiving week release date, I will go beyond green and bust the damn traffic light, ha! But....right now, yellow.
I hear what you are saying. But in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it really matters who releases an album first. I feel pretty certain that David Cook's album will be very successful regardless when it is released. And yes, I agree that winning AI should mean something and the producers have kind of watered down what it means to win by allowing so many of the runner-ups to land a record contract so quickly after the season is over. In the end, the one with the most talent, most loyal fans, and music that has real staying power will be the true winner and I think Cook fits the bill.
QUOTE (southpaw @ Jul 12 2008, 02:48 PM)
I hear what you are saying. But in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it really matters who releases an album first. I feel pretty certain that David Cook's album will be very successful regardless when it is released. And yes, I agree that winning AI should mean something and the producers have kind of watered down what it means to win by allowing so many of the runner-ups to land a record contract so quickly after the season is over. In the end, the one with the most talent, most loyal fans, and music that has real staying power will be the true winner and I think Cook fits the bill.
This is true but if Cookie has been runner-up we would have been very happy for him to release an album ASAP and we would have thought that he deserved it whatever.
I don't think that what happens to Archie matters much. What matter is what will happen to Cookie and wow good his album will be.
Does anyone believe that Ruben, Taylor, of Blake could have been major star if promoted differently? I am not sure.
What's with all these Blake and Taylor comparisons? That's like deliberately looking for the worst examples to compare anyone to. Arista never even put up a biography for Blake. RCA featured David on their website the week his deal was announced and he's been featured since.
He's had a single on the radio on three different formats for almost two months. I hate to break it to you, but whether you like TOML or not that was a major perk of winning.
I'll make a safe bet and say that if he does get that Thanksgiving week release date then there will be angst that they're making him release too late, because god forbid there aren't complaints.
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These things simply bother the hell out of me as a fan who voted for David Cook to be treated like the winner of the competition
He's had a single on the radio on three different formats for almost two months. I hate to break it to you, but whether you like TOML or not that was a major perk of winning.
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Now, if DC gets a kickass single released to radio and itunes in September with support equal to or greater than what he got for TOML and goes on to receive the coveted Thanksgiving week release date, I will go beyond green and bust the damn traffic light,
I'll make a safe bet and say that if he does get that Thanksgiving week release date then there will be angst that they're making him release too late, because god forbid there aren't complaints.
QUOTE (trinachick1 @ Jul 12 2008, 11:23 AM)
What's with all these Blake and Taylor comparisons? That's like deliberately looking for the worst examples to compare anyone to. Arista never even put up a biography for Blake. RCA featured David on their website the week his deal was announced and he's been featured since.
He's had a single on the radio on three different formats for almost two months. I hate to break it to you, but whether you like TOML or not that was a major perk of winning.
I'll make a safe bet and say that if he does get that Thanksgiving week release date then there will be angst that they're making him release too late, because god forbid there aren't complaints.
He's had a single on the radio on three different formats for almost two months. I hate to break it to you, but whether you like TOML or not that was a major perk of winning.
I'll make a safe bet and say that if he does get that Thanksgiving week release date then there will be angst that they're making him release too late, because god forbid there aren't complaints.
Trina,
This is what was just mentioned at mj's. Getting black Friday sales is a GOOD thing as we all know and IMO, if he can have that, then I'll be happy with it.
Plus one of the posters there stated this and she is correct. Archie probably already had a lot of material already pre-written for him which would make sense why he would release a single now. Archie doesn't have songwriting experience and as this poster stated Cook probably wants to write most of the material on his record and if so, then that is what will take time. To me, that indicates he doesn't want to put out a rushed job and if that is true, then I applaud him for it. He seems to be just as much more about the quality than the quantity. To me, that is a professional. Oh yeah, there will be more complaints coming. I'd put money on that.
I knew the complaints would come last night when all this came to light. I was ready. LOL
Ok I am gonna just say what a lot of folks here are thinking and if I piss anyone off, franky I don't much give a flying fuck cause I am fairly well done with most of the threads here. To you yellow lighters and record company emailing campaigners...Turn off you fucking computers and get a life before you screw things up for the guy you supposedly adore.
Whoah nelly!!! We need to take a minute just to breathe here!
Will David have another single out before the album release? Dunno...I'd hope so! But the fact that Archie and Kristy will have singles out (or albums) before David's album release doesn't matter at all. Let's not get too worked up about this and let's defintely not turn into Claymates bombarding RCA with questions. Just enjoy the ride...
Buy his records, request play on radio, buy tickets to his concerts, and turn out en-masse to support him...enjoy it!!!
He's WRITING his album...something that sets him apart from the other Idol artists...definitely something worth waiting for.
Will David have another single out before the album release? Dunno...I'd hope so! But the fact that Archie and Kristy will have singles out (or albums) before David's album release doesn't matter at all. Let's not get too worked up about this and let's defintely not turn into Claymates bombarding RCA with questions. Just enjoy the ride...
Buy his records, request play on radio, buy tickets to his concerts, and turn out en-masse to support him...enjoy it!!!
He's WRITING his album...something that sets him apart from the other Idol artists...definitely something worth waiting for.
Can any one verify that our David is upset because his two peers are each dropping a single or an album before him? I don't think so, if David indicates that he is upset and if it coming from his mouth that is one thing.
There is a timeline based on the Joint Marketing Campaign with Sketchers: Based on the campaign David is going to have various means of having his name out there - already for the past two weeks he has been the featured artist on the Official RCA Website.
Idol tour ends: 9/13
Joint Marketing Campaign beings (Fall, 2008)
David has indicated that a single will drop in September T-Frame
I am sure that there will be media Tour to promote single and upcoming CD
CD to launch Mid/Late November T-Frame
I am sure that between RCA/Sketchers/David all is mapped out for this to be successful.
David is also heavily involved in the writing process so I am sure that he is not going to stick something on a track unless he is totally happy with it.
Please let us just enjoy the ride of successes that David is having and leave everything else to RCA/Sketchers/David.
There is a timeline based on the Joint Marketing Campaign with Sketchers: Based on the campaign David is going to have various means of having his name out there - already for the past two weeks he has been the featured artist on the Official RCA Website.
Idol tour ends: 9/13
Joint Marketing Campaign beings (Fall, 2008)
David has indicated that a single will drop in September T-Frame
I am sure that there will be media Tour to promote single and upcoming CD
CD to launch Mid/Late November T-Frame
I am sure that between RCA/Sketchers/David all is mapped out for this to be successful.
David is also heavily involved in the writing process so I am sure that he is not going to stick something on a track unless he is totally happy with it.
Please let us just enjoy the ride of successes that David is having and leave everything else to RCA/Sketchers/David.
In support Annie, Annette and Pam's point of view, I'm posting my opinion. I already posted this on the other thread on this topic:
I vowed I wasn't going to get caught up in this but I will post this once.
David is on solid footing.
KLC, DA and DC all are with the same label. They want all to succeed. They are banking a LOT on David Cook and have charted a prime release date for him. He's also had the first hit single... the other two may not even chart well at all. David has already proven he sells records and can chart. Don't write to anyone.... other than David to tell him you love him, or to radio stations to request that they play him. Just be a loyal fan. Don't try to manage his career.
I vowed I wasn't going to get caught up in this but I will post this once.
David is on solid footing.
KLC, DA and DC all are with the same label. They want all to succeed. They are banking a LOT on David Cook and have charted a prime release date for him. He's also had the first hit single... the other two may not even chart well at all. David has already proven he sells records and can chart. Don't write to anyone.... other than David to tell him you love him, or to radio stations to request that they play him. Just be a loyal fan. Don't try to manage his career.
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David has already proven he sells records and can chart. Don't write to anyone.... other than David to tell him you love him, or to radio stations to request that they play him. Just be a loyal fan. Don't try to manage his career.
SO MUCH WORD. Also... because it needs to be said again, Just be a loyal fan. Don't try to manage his career.
I've been at work for a few days and did not read the posts regarding all this until today. Everyone is getting themselves all worked up over nothing. David is working to assurre that he puts out the best album he can
with new songs, not covers. Time of My Life has been released and is doing very well, so in essance David has had a single released before Archie and Kristy.
19 and RCA recognize that David will be one of the successful Idol winners and will make sure they do everything they can to promote him. They are not neglecting him.
Aren't all these release dates just speculation? I don't know where this information came from but I believe the winner has their album released first with the other's following shortly thereafter.
I agree with Scott and Annette. Do not write to RCA. They know what they are doing and will make sure David is fine!
Grandmajoyce
with new songs, not covers. Time of My Life has been released and is doing very well, so in essance David has had a single released before Archie and Kristy.
19 and RCA recognize that David will be one of the successful Idol winners and will make sure they do everything they can to promote him. They are not neglecting him.
Aren't all these release dates just speculation? I don't know where this information came from but I believe the winner has their album released first with the other's following shortly thereafter.
I agree with Scott and Annette. Do not write to RCA. They know what they are doing and will make sure David is fine!
Grandmajoyce
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